Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
[Re: ol' dad]
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The US military is partially made up if people just like us...trappers, hunters, firearm enthuiast.etc.. they are not robots.
Ol dad Not to sure about The robot thing. The day you start basic training you have no input on what you do or how you do It and where you do It.
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Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
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Not quite the same. That was two different countries (the CSA and the USA) fighting against each other. Or, at least, a group of people that considered themselves a separate country, whether they actually were or not. I agree LG, But it seems that our Gubmants become so big that they want to override the constitution and take over the US by doing so. This is of course in reference to our current leadership.
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Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
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No reason to. They'd just freeze people's assets. Then the people will submit. Good point.
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Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
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How many people under the age of 40, products of a government education, products of universities, have ever read the bill of rights, let alone the entire constitution. I have a niece, raised in Kentucky, a product of their school system, who told me she had heard of Daniel Boone but didnt know anything about him.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
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Military vs. citizens.........military outguns citizens short term........better weapons, more powerful weapons. But military is out manned. In Missouri alone, there are nearly 500,000 firearms deer permits sold annually, so about that many folks with a weapon lethal enough to kill a deer. That is MO alone. In entire US, armed citizens might outnumber military about 100:1. That assumes 100% of military stays on government's side.
Where citizens fall down is command and communications. All communications and ability to organize gets wiped out on day 1. Where military falls down is support. without citizens supporting them in every phase of the game, they won't last long. No food, no fuel, no transportation.
And what citizens lack now is permission. If Feds try to turn military on citizens, permission is granted. Lots of armed deer hunters, but remember less than 10% of the American colonists participated in the revolution. The rest either did nothing or were loyal to the king.
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Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
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Military vs. citizens.........military outguns citizens short term........better weapons, more powerful weapons. But military is out manned. In Missouri alone, there are nearly 500,000 firearms deer permits sold annually, so about that many folks with a weapon lethal enough to kill a deer. That is MO alone. In entire US, armed citizens might outnumber military about 100:1. That assumes 100% of military stays on government's side.
Where citizens fall down is command and communications. All communications and ability to organize gets wiped out on day 1. Where military falls down is support. without citizens supporting them in every phase of the game, they won't last long. No food, no fuel, no transportation.
And what citizens lack now is permission. If Feds try to turn military on citizens, permission is granted. Lots of armed deer hunters, but remember less than 10% of the American colonists participated in the revolution. The rest either did nothing or were loyal to the king. And we ran their butts into canada!
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Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
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During Katrina the military was confiscatting firearms. They almost beat an old woman to death because she questioned their authority. The military will fight against you. They will do as they are told. X2
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Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
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Rank and file enlisted folks maybe, but I’d be willing to bet the men who bring the hammer would side with us….
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Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
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They would at first, till they have had a chance to think about it. They are so ingrained to follow orders, no matter how stupid, it will take a while for them to see just what's going on.
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Re: Would The Military Act Against American Citizens
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They would at first, till they have had a chance to think about it. They are so ingrained to follow orders, no matter how stupid, it will take a while for them to see just what's going on. Once they loose a few friends there will be no thinking about it.
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