Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
[Re: bblwi]
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Defimation, slander etc. are very different than rape. It is easier to convict parties on defimation than rape and Trump continued to defame the lady and the lawyer for the the prosecution was far, far better than Trump's lawyer. One would think he could afford better legal lawyers but maybe those willing to defend him tire of the process and how rarely listens to their advice anyway.
Bryce
Is defamation a 2 way street? Can Trump sue her for 84 million for defaming him?
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
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He could have saved himself a bunch of money by keeping his yap shut and letting his attorney talk. Would you keep your yap shut if you were falsely accused of rape?
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
[Re: wr otis]
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01/29/24 08:07 PM
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Most of, or all of the cases against trump will be reversed on appeal. But that will happen after the election, which is the whole point of these cases.
Trump has had problems retaining top legal counsel, because there is a group of lawyers that threaten and harass anyone willing to represent him. They file bar complaints against or threaten bar complaints until people cave in.
Let that sink in.
OJ was acquitted because the la pd falsified evidence, they planted evidence. Maybe they didn't need to, but they did and got caught. Do you have any sources or proof for those claims? If you can predict the outcome on appeal for Trump's numerous legal cases, you must have a crystal ball. You're making predictions that few lawyers would attempt. Your claim that other lawyers are being mean to Trump's lawyers, filing Bar grievances and making threats, is ridiculous on its face for several reasons. First, litigation attorneys don't care who's mean to them. Someone is always being mean in that field. Litigation attorneys need a thick skin, or else should take up writing trust documents or something. Second, the filing of a Bar grievance is strictly confidential pending investigation and outcome. Any lawyer who reveals the existence of a Bar grievance is themself guilty of an ethics violation. The odds that anyone with personal knowledge would take that risk and reveal the grievance are slim. The odds that you're simply repeating rumor and innuendo are much higher. Third, filing groundless grievances also risks an ethics violation. You ought to quit representing rumor as fact. It hurts your credibility with those who know better. I now know to take your claims with a healthy dose of salt--unless you support them with a source. Jim
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
[Re: wr otis]
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01/29/24 08:09 PM
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Dershowitz discussed it on his podcast, because they did it to him also. At the minimum they tie up your time and cost you a bunch of money. I believe he said the legal bill for someone to represent him in his case was 10k.
Dershowitz's podcast is on mon tue and wed every week. Well worth watching, interesting and insightful.
LA cops moved blood evidence, and got caught.
Yeah, okay.
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
[Re: Diggerman]
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Defimation, slander etc. are very different than rape. It is easier to convict parties on defimation than rape and Trump continued to defame the lady and the lawyer for the the prosecution was far, far better than Trump's lawyer. One would think he could afford better legal lawyers but maybe those willing to defend him tire of the process and how rarely listens to their advice anyway.
Bryce
Is defamation a 2 way street? Can Trump sue her for 84 million for defaming him? If you mean sue her for her claim that he sexually assaulted her, truth is a defense to defamation. So far as Trump is concerned, Carroll's claim is true. A prior jury found that he sexually assaulted her, which binds Trump to that fact. If Trump sued, his case would be dismissed. Jim
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
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Trump should sue himself for defamation-he would win.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
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Trump said he is a man of the law and we are a nation of laws whats the issue?? Trump said he is a man of the law and we are a nation of laws whats the issue?? And Biden said he chooses truth over facts. Crazy right?
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
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Trump cant get anyone to help him because of his penchant for throwing loyal people under the bus. You have that just backward. Trump is loyal to those that are loyal to him.
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
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01/29/24 09:53 PM
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Trump cant get anyone to help him because of his penchant for throwing loyal people under the bus. You have that just backward. Trump is loyal to those that are loyal to him. Wow!
My name ain't Keith
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
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01/29/24 11:16 PM
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Trump is his own worst enemy. I didnt think he was gonna throw his best buddy Rudy under the bus but in the wink of an eye-by by Rudy,lol. Just used and tossed like a dirty kleenex.
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
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Unless you sat in like the jury did and listened to all the testimony, evidence and what the judge read as procedure how can you contradict or second guess. To do so is biased and the first things a judge will discuss after reading charges and asking for a plea, is for the jury not to decide or predetermine judgement until the trial is over. Maybe because most of this was voided out? A few details the judge deemed "inadmissible" during the trial
She couldn’t recall the date, month, season, or year the incident happened She never told anyone about it, despite being publicly obsessed with her own sexuality The dress she claims to have been wearing didn’t exist at the time Her description of the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman was inaccurate, making her sequence of events impossible Her lawsuit was bankrolled by Jeffrey Epstein pal and Democrat (and Nikki Haley) mega-donor Reid Hoffman Democrats created a law (The Adult Survivors Act in 2022) to enable her lawsuit to proceed Her accusation is the exact plotline of an episode of Law & Order (one of her “favorite shows”) Trump’s Apprentice was also one of her favorite shows She has a history of falsely accusing men of ra**, including Les Moonves She told Anderson Cooper, “most people think of ra** as being sexy. Think of the fantasies.” She made a career promoting promiscuity, even writing glowingly of sexual assault and naming her cat Vag***Again, common sense tells me this was nothing more than a planned political hit job!,.of course this will take time in appeal. You and MSM will have ample time to gloat.
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
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To answer the original poster,
No because you cant tell a heinze pickle nothing.
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Re: Can someone explain this? (Trump post)
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01/29/24 11:27 PM
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If you mean sue her for her claim that he sexually assaulted her, truth is a defense to defamation. So far as Trump is concerned, Carroll's claim is true. A prior jury found that he sexually assaulted her, which binds Trump to that fact. If Trump sued, his case would be dismissed.
Jim
Do you have any sources or proof for that claim?
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