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Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089251
12/14/20 03:04 PM
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There was a good article on CBC TV last night. What is coming to light now is the after effects of having this disease. Covid Brain Fog
mull that over
and get back to me in an hour
Victims of C-19 if; you can remember that long

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: Northof50] #7089259
12/14/20 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Northof50
There was a good article on CBC TV last night. What is coming to light now is the after effects of having this disease. Covid Brain Fog
mull that over
and get back to me in an hour
Victims of C-19 if; you can remember that long


Whatever you believe about Covid 19, it’s obvious we’ve all got Covid Brain Fog by now.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089275
12/14/20 03:32 PM
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I have had a on-off headache for months since Covid. I have my physical in early January and I'll ask my internist. He will either know something because of advances discovered, or resort to his expert training in the past, or try something based on his expertise in the art of medicine. Or ask someone else = consult.
Like I offered, we are an educated society, and the ones who lack medical training can cut and paste from online, so all involved have beliefs and opinions. It's time doctors show the educated individuals what they know, what they've discovered, and precisely what they do not know at this time.
That's called honesty and integrity for the people.

Until then, we get restaurants closed while liquor stores are open. Church disallowed but street rallies allowed.
This isn't health doctrine. It's called tyranny.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: Co�s] #7089280
12/14/20 03:35 PM
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I have had it since Saturday the 5th. got tested Thursday came back positive. Pretty sure I had it this time last December, much worse then. Not so much this year. Feeling better every day.


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Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089308
12/14/20 04:06 PM
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Prayers for your loss and to comfort your family !

I'm not a nay sayer, there is something definitely out there, how it was placed or came to be now is not relevant really, we as common people cannot do anything about how it got here, thats wasted breath to me.

What ever it is there seems to be two leading lethal things about it, it affects older immune compromised people quicker and harder, the other is the wide range of symptoms it affects others with a stronger immune system which seems to confound Doctors on a solid attack treatment, where-in your sent home to be more comfortable and not infect others, which to me means a longer time having it without any kind of treatment at all to knock it around some or bring that lethality down.

Do masks work, well they seem to be working well at keeping the flu in check with social distancing as well, contact with the flu is and has always been a sore spot with infection rates in the past.. Are they preventing the Covid, doubt we can really assess that until its been here for some time, you cant get statistics worth much on a short term study.

Why are other countries with a history of using HCO for many years not having a high infection rate should speak for it's self, IMO

Money does have an issue in this with reporting on deaths, it does seem that there are some instances where it's very questionable about Covid being responsible for their passing, when the incubation period has not even been met before their passing. Does this have to be addressed , are there un-identified issues with the person that magnified the death quicker, maybe, again a statistic unattainable yet in my view. Are there people out there who will never have it, probably, like other things, some have a natural tendency to resist infections, maybe we should ask them to provide time to study that resistance.

Are people in hysteria over this yes, are their people who are ignoring it, yes, does either offset the end of not getting it, no, people every where will have a chance to get infected one time or another just like many other things we meet on a daily basis, it's not going any where now, except to mutate it's self either worse or not a threat any more.

Lets all hope for the latter, and come to the acknowledgement of this is something we are now going to have to live with, regardless of how its fought !!


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Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: ] #7089328
12/14/20 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark June
I have had a on-off headache for months since Covid. I have my physical in early January and I'll ask my internist. He will either know something because of advances discovered, or resort to his expert training in the past, or try something based on his expertise in the art of medicine. Or ask someone else = consult.
Like I offered, we are an educated society, and the ones who lack medical training can cut and paste from online, so all involved have beliefs and opinions. It's time educated individuals are shown what they know and what medical "experts" have discovered and what they do not know at this time. That's called honesty and integrity for the people.

Until then, we get restaurants closed while liquor stores are open. Church disallowed but street rallies allowed.
This isn't health doctrine. It's called tyranny.


The “Science” that allows wrestlers to wrestle, but not Shake Hands just makes me shake my head.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: ] #7089367
12/14/20 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark June
I have had a on-off headache for months since Covid. I have my physical in early January and I'll ask my internist. He will either know something because of advances discovered, or resort to his expert training in the past, or try something based on his expertise in the art of medicine. Or ask someone else = consult.
Like I offered, we are an educated society, and the ones who lack medical training can cut and paste from online, so all involved have beliefs and opinions. It's time educated individuals are shown what they know and what medical "experts" have discovered and what they do not know at this time. That's called honesty and integrity for the people.

Until then, we get restaurants closed while liquor stores are open. Church disallowed but street rallies allowed.
This isn't health doctrine. It's called tyranny.

Isn't that the truth. The restaurant I always eat at doesn't serve any alcohol. They require a mask except while you're eating. Booths and tables are socially distanced apart. Limit of 4 per table. Hand sanitizers located throughout. After every table has been used, it's wiped down. Yet, they are forced closed.

Churches disallowed or limited to 25 people at a service. Casinos have unlimited access. Seriously???????


The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089405
12/14/20 05:49 PM
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Turkey wrangler One thing about the nursing homes. Those people have been in them for years . Some even decades. Survived the flu, colds , any other illnesses that man and nature had thrown at them. BUT when covid (or what ever folks believe) came thru the country they died by the thousands. Where most in there final days? Probably. But with covid they died alone and lonely. In the past when someone's life light was flickering for the last time the family and friends were able to say their goodbyes. The illness is bad enough, dying and not seeing your kids, grandkids for months is dreadful.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: YamaCat] #7089419
12/14/20 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by YamaCat


The “Science” that allows wrestlers to wrestle, but not Shake Hands just makes me shake my head.


Today's "Science!" is the end result of postmodernism, there is no objective truth, just my truth, but ncan use any gendered bathroom based on how I feel today -ism. We are well past what th late Michael Crichton described in his lecture titled Aliens Cause Global Warming m it's a good read if you can find it. I've posted I here a few times.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089427
12/14/20 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Turkey wrangler One thing about the nursing homes. Those people have been in them for years . Some even decades. Survived the flu, colds , any other illnesses that man and nature had thrown at them. BUT when covid (or what ever folks believe) came thru the country they died by the thousands. Where most in there final days? Probably. But with covid they died alone and lonely. In the past when someone's life light was flickering for the last time the family and friends were able to say their goodbyes. The illness is bad enough, dying and not seeing your kids, grandkids for months is dreadful.


Them dying alone was due to governmental reactions. Sure some of those were there for years and survived, but now they are years older and therefore weaker than before. You can't discount that.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089436
12/14/20 06:10 PM
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Being confined indoors just wrecks your immune system. You're never exposed to anything unless someone brings it with them . The HVAC systems aren't really set up to isolate each room.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: Trapper7] #7089439
12/14/20 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by Mark June
I have had a on-off headache for months since Covid. I have my physical in early January and I'll ask my internist. He will either know something because of advances discovered, or resort to his expert training in the past, or try something based on his expertise in the art of medicine. Or ask someone else = consult.
Like I offered, we are an educated society, and the ones who lack medical training can cut and paste from online, so all involved have beliefs and opinions. It's time educated individuals are shown what they know and what medical "experts" have discovered and what they do not know at this time. That's called honesty and integrity for the people.

Until then, we get restaurants closed while liquor stores are open. Church disallowed but street rallies allowed.
This isn't health doctrine. It's called tyranny.

Isn't that the truth. The restaurant I always eat at doesn't serve any alcohol. They require a mask except while you're eating. Booths and tables are socially distanced apart. Limit of 4 per table. Hand sanitizers located throughout. After every table has been used, it's wiped down. Yet, they are forced closed.

Churches disallowed or limited to 25 people at a service. Casinos have unlimited access. Seriously???????


So if folks are gonna huff at someone call city hall. Tyranny has us all wondering "What??"
The closures make no sense and this is the quietest deadliest, most infamous, yet mysterious, killer, non-lethal bug in human history.
Not really. We just have our already in place single payer health care who doesn't even know you're out here.

Basements for Presidential election candidates?
Who the heck is Fauci and how did he get chosen as the furor of mandates that make no sense because I could do better than that swamp hack?
The greatest advances in modern medicine, and not a whimper from the country who did most of it?

Call city hall and tell the swampers to pressure Heir Fauci to release the scientific evidence every time he spouts. Or we won't listen to Heir Fauci and his whack-a-mole.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089478
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Don't have to look far on this board to see HUNDREDS of post declaring it a hoax ........
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This was you when this was all getting going. You and a few others said it was nothing. Several other threads got axed. If you are in the wrong group you need to take precautions. As for the young man, he is in a very rare but real group. Dying young is not right no matter what it is from. LLL

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...e-understand-this-mask-thing#Post6863266


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Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089575
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Nobody is stopping anyone from believing or fearing or doing whatever they want.

You make your own decisions for your own life.

Carry on.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089628
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I saw today the CDC is counting pneumonia and influenza deaths right along with Covid deaths all together. They must of got tired of being called out on it. The Rona is real, it's just the numbers are fake.


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Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089650
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Well here's who I listen to most often because they're correct 99.8% of the time, Covid or otherwise;
and we've got more than .02% of the trappers on here need to take lessons from these folk.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089689
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Like many I have mixed feelings on the whole thing (and also upset at how many governors are handling it). It's also hard to know who to believe these days as there are highly qualified people saying different things...and seemingly changing their minds weekly. Its human nature to side with whomever makes you feel the best I guess. That said, I know locally, the nurses at Mayo (and other hospitals here) that are working in the Covid ward are now working 12 hr days, 6 days a week (mandatory) and watching actual covid patients die daily. Yes, of actual Covid.

I know people who've had it and wasn't a big deal. I know healthy/fit people who've been on their backs for 3 weeks solid and took 6 weeks to get back to work.

Just observations on my part. Carry on.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: yukon254] #7089697
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Oh for Pete's sakes!

BitChute is a video hosting service known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hateful material. Wikipedia


And wiki is what?? What about the thousands of doctors who have signed the barrington declaration?? Are they crazy too?? What about the doctors in Alberta who sent letters to Kenny and did the recent interviews?? Are they crazy too??


Yukon, the amount of Alberta doctors that pleaded for a lockdown with Kenney was huge. The only interviews I saw from Albert doctors said their strategy was failing and that “Hope was not a solution”. Only the extreme far right is even happy in Alberta currently with Leadership popularity plummeting.

I’m sure there’s some number fudging for profit in the USA, but profit isn’t the name of the game when it comes to hospitals in a lot of the world.

Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: Calvin] #7089723
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It is estimated that 38 million US citizens will have the flu 2019-2020 of which 18 million will contact a health care provider, 400K will be hospitalized and 22,000 will die or .00057% of all cases 0r .57 persons per 1,000
During the Viet Nam war 2,709,918 service men served in active duty in Viet Nam of which 58,000 died which is 2.1% of all who served or 21 per 1,000
to date COVID has reported 16,000,000 cases with 300,000 deaths or 1.8% or 19 per 1,000

Yes the media may hype this more than many feel they should or there are those who feel that this is all manufactured to make sectors of our economy money etc. but the reality is there is much to be concerned regarding the outcome of becoming infected. Being in the jungles of Nam was not a whole lot more hazardous to one's health then walking into a restaurant and ordering a meal or going to a bar for a night of fun and drinking.


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Re: For all you covid naysayers ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7089744
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I know lots of people who have had it, many friends and family. I have it now.

It's not a hoax but it's not that bad. Heck my dad is 84 and he recovered in about a week. I'm in day 4 and feeling sick but I have been able to keep working so far. We'll see how this plays out over the next week, I am just staying home and getting what work done I can from my home office. Life goes on.

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