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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: trappergbus] #6196271
03/22/18 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: trappergbus
The difference is obvious, when drummed there the best they can be. Witch is best for both parties. Even after there boxed all that's needed is a good shake to fluff em up.


I take it you have seen unwashed coyotes after nafa has drummed them? Have you seen washed coyotes after nafa drumming?

Doesn't really matter because I found out today it ain't happening, opting out that is.

Also found out that if Toronto gets too busy to drum everything, they will get drummed in Stoughton and shipped north.
He agreed that the fur maybe wouldn't be at it's very best but said thats just way things are sometimes.


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: H380] #6196682
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Originally Posted By: H380
opting out of drumming would likely be a mistake .. When they come out of the box after being sandwiched in there with 60 or so of their brothers they arent too impressive .


Kinda ironic after finding out our fur can and most likely will at some point be drummed in Stoughton and graded in Toronto ain't it.

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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6196772
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The other thing you have to take Into consideration. Is that only a few of those hides become show lots. And I'm betting those hides may get some special attention once they are placed In that show lot category.


The buyers never get to see the other 200,000 coyotes that go up for sale. They don't come out of the bales till they reach the tannery.


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6196846
03/23/18 12:44 PM
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I'm just talking grading, as in each pelt gets graded on it's own merit. If you have much fur some of it may not look the greatest after bouncing down the hwy in the back of the Semi to Toronto.
Also the minimum wage folks that's doing the stackin and packin in the watermelon boxes probably don't really care what the fur looks like when it gets to its destination.
The way I see it the fur gets shipped the same way whether its before or after drumming as in no special treatment.


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6196861
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Spot on.


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6197034
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i've seen what drumming does to unwashed coyotes, but not by NAFA. They come out clean and shinny, as long as you get the burs out. If all other yotes in the drum have burs in them it's not a good thang. This is why I wish we could opt out, and do my own. In my little mind the WFSC members should get free drumming.. I didn't ship this year, we'll see what happens in the May sale.. Good luck with your yotes RP, hope ya do well.


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6197193
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Probably goes without saying that drumming would help unwashed fur, probably will put a nice sheen on my washed ones. Do you or anyone know the media and additives and what ratio nafa uses in their drum or is it a secret recipe like bush's baked beans? grin

Thanks, I need all the luck I can get because it's outa my hands now. Good luck to you as well.


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6197460
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I know they buy the drumming medium In bulk but have no idea what It consists of. They also drum the ranch mink.

You might be able to buy It from NAFA or at least find out where to get It.


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6197551
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I'll try to find out what medium NAFA uses, from the local agent. Maybe Boco knows. I'm going down there next week to visit and discuss the market and life..


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6198013
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You coming down to Stoughton?


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6199416
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Nope, North Webster, In.


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: trappergbus] #6199703
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I believe they said it was a mixture of hardwood and a softer wood ground to a specific medium grit in one of their put up videos or I had read it in their magazine. From the age of 13 to my early 20s I worked at a fox ranch putting up ranch fox for market. We would skin, flesh, drum, board leather out, then the next day we would turn inside out to finish frying and once they were dry we would drum again. We used a corn cob grit and during that last final drumming before they went on hanger we would add about a cup full of some type of clear liquid in which I do not know what it consisted of. I'm assuming some type of cleaner or to add some shine.

Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6200443
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Good info wileytrapper.

Did a search on here and this is what I found for a recipe.

This is per 100 lbs of fine corn cob grit.
In a bucket mix 1 1/2 cups dawn dish soap and 1/2 gallon of water, mix and add to grit. Then let mix in drum for 10 minutes before adding fur.

The poster said this is the recipe that the auction houses use. No reason to doubt until someone proves otherwise.

Also read that some guys use a low volume paint thinner in their own mixture.

Beav, is that spray oxy-clean you use on the bellies?


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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6200864
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I use a product called OXI Magic. It's a Clorox prouduct. It's chlorine and bleach free.
It's a great stain remover and It takes out blood like magic.



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Re: NAFA drumming [Re: rpmartin] #6201361
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I'll have to find some of that. Thank you sir.


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