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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124177
04/18/24 02:32 PM
04/18/24 02:32 PM
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Maybe but would you feed your family a deer you know had cwd? [/quote]
I've got a friend who's deer tested positive back in 2016.he kept it and ate it.so far him,his wife and family members are doing fine.not sure if I would or not if mine tested positive.[/quote]

Yea, that's why I don't get mine tested. If it has it, I don't want to know.


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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124186
04/18/24 02:59 PM
04/18/24 02:59 PM
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Northern Maine
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Bruce T
Animal activist not wanting you to eat meat thru scare tactics.


Maybe but would you feed your family a deer you know had cwd?

Some deer get sick and die.Been happening since beginning of time.I don't worry about it or eating fish as well with the claims of mercury.


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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8124203
04/18/24 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
That "study" is a joke, and no one should be surprised the only placed it was published was Yahoo. They don't even know if they guy that died ever ate an infected deer. They just assume he did because he's a hunter and a positive deer had been found in that area, though they convenient leave out how many and if they were even wild deer. No longer does the term "study" have any legitimacy, the vast majority that you read about on the internet have a predetermined goal. In this case, it's to scare people from eating deer meat, i.e, keep people from hunting.

It was published in Neurology, which is a medical journal. Yahoo just picked it up and regurgitated it for the general public. Happens all the time in "science news". I have first-hand experience with it, and sometimes it's interesting to see what direction/spin journalists will put on a journal article. If you want to know the nitty-gritty (and if you can get access) it's always a good idea to read the original journal article. You're right though; "study" doesn't really apply. It's really a report that is intended to call attention to the issue so that other doctors/scientists will be on the lookout and do more work in the future. That seems to be the intention of the original authors anyway.

Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
There is some info that relates CWD, CJD, Mad Cow......to Alzheimer's.

...and others too. This entire group of diseases is very poorly understood, so poorly understood in fact, that (more or less behind the scenes) there's still some debate as to whether prions are the infectious agent or merely a symptom. Check out some of the work by Laura Manuelidis from Yale, who suggests that endogenous lentiviruses could be playing an important role.

Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124209
04/18/24 03:33 PM
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Eat beaver. The other red meat!!! grin


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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124216
04/18/24 03:43 PM
04/18/24 03:43 PM
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no tellin how many thousands of deer-elk-moose have been consumed throughout the years before cwd was "discovered"
and no tellin how many thousands of $ have been made studying it and "testing it "since it was "discovered"

1Ti 4:3  Forbidding to marry, and
commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 
4  For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 
1Ti 4:5  For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.


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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124232
04/18/24 04:09 PM
04/18/24 04:09 PM
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Reminds me of the Canadian monkey CWD study where they injected prions into the monkeys' brains then tested them for CWD. You can guess how the test results came out.

Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124285
04/18/24 05:20 PM
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Something has to kill me. Might as well be venison.

Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124335
04/18/24 07:00 PM
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I eat deer from my CWD free area of Va without concern. When I take a cervid from a CWD area, such as the Wy MD I took in 2021, I extract the lymph nodes from the neck and have it tested. If it tests positive the meat will not be eaten. It is pretty simple to protect myself and family. You make your own choice.

Last edited by EdP; 04/18/24 07:01 PM.
Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124372
04/18/24 08:05 PM
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“Given the patients history of consuming CWD-infected deer meat, the authors suggest "a possible novel animal-to-human transmission of CWD."


Thats an assumption not a fact. They ate venison from a deer population known to have CWD. Not from an individual deer proven to have CWD.



“The Neurology study doesn't reveal where the individuals who contracted CJD lived and hunted”


This is a junk article right up there with Biden won fair and square.

Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124382
04/18/24 08:18 PM
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I wish everyone that believes this kinda crap would remember 35 years ago when AIDS was prevalent.

Kept me from having some " glorious " times with beautiful gals.

For YEARS..., AIDS was the major news headlines.
Not even a thing anymore?
Follow the $$$.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Cwd in a person [Re: 330-Trapper] #8124389
04/18/24 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I wouldn't eat it

Me neither.

Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124418
04/18/24 08:50 PM
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Denial may kill you....


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Never Half-Arse Anything!

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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124421
04/18/24 08:56 PM
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Ill trust the deer I harvest. I do all my own butchering, lot of places mix up everyones deer meat. Theres a lot more harmfull stuff in prepared foods. And is mystery meat from the grocery store tested for everything? How about when you go out to eat?

Re: Cwd in a person [Re: cmj] #8124427
04/18/24 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cmj
Ill trust the deer I harvest. I do all my own butchering, lot of places mix up everyones deer meat. Theres a lot more harmfull stuff in prepared foods. And is mystery meat from the grocery store tested for everything? How about when you go out to eat?

I agree ^^^

I do all my own processing too for the same reasons^^^


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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8124431
04/18/24 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by cmj
Ill trust the deer I harvest. I do all my own butchering, lot of places mix up everyones deer meat. Theres a lot more harmfull stuff in prepared foods. And is mystery meat from the grocery store tested for everything? How about when you go out to eat?

I agree ^^^

I do all my own processing too for the same reasons^^^

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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8124573
04/19/24 12:10 AM
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I wrote a 4-H speech on Prion diseases last year and there is a lot they don't know about it. In Canada, there are around 100 cases of CJD annually. Of these cases around 6% are passed from parent to child through genetics, 1% is from transmission (They list mad cow disease or through medical procedures), and the remaining 93% are caused by unknown causes. Scientists have never proven that CWD can cause CJD: "There is no direct evidence that the disease can be transmitted to humans and there have been no reports of cases of disease in humans." While it isn't proven I still don't think I would intentionally eat infected meat just because of how uncertain the science is in this area.

These are the websites I cited if anyone wants to look into it deeper:
https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/p...llance-system-factsheet/factsheet-en.pdf
http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/chronic-wasting-disease

Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8125478
04/20/24 11:05 AM
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I do not eat sick animals no matter what caused the illness. I was plucking a green head one time but it wasn't going well so I skinned it. Glad I did cause it had full blown rice breast. It went in the garbage. Now just like many other diseases the animal can carry without any sign.

Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8125542
04/20/24 01:07 PM
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We will all die of something. I like venison and freshwater fish. If I can tell its sick I wont eat it. Otherwise I am going to live till I die. Who wants to die in a nursing home anyway????


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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8125547
04/20/24 01:15 PM
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If you are worried about it just don't eat the brain or spinal column. Bone out any meat along the spinal column, and as long as you don't cut through the spinal column with a meat saw, you probably have nothing to worry about.


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Re: Cwd in a person [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8125549
04/20/24 01:22 PM
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Eating venison not knowing if it has CWD is one thing. Purposely eating a deer with CWD is a different story. I watch a deer before I shoot it. If it is acting at all strange I would not eat it.

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