Re: we are losing Christians here
[Re: Gary Benson]
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. Gary I agree, there's a lot of hirelings In the prosperity gospel. There will always be false prophets seeking there own glory until Christ returns and the final throne judgment. Fortunately I've seen peaple leave a church with a God fearing pastor that were struggling with themselves but blaming it on there disagreement with the truth. Then after much prayer God moved in there lives and they returned and became pillers in the community. It seems the more technology we get the more knowledge peaple have at there fingertips. Knowledge can be a good thing bit is also can be bad. Just like the tree of knowledge. Probably the reason God confounded the languages in Babylon. The world wide web is sort of a Babylon, withe much knowledge at our fingertips. Who knows some day God may confound the languages again. Wouldn't surprise me.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
[Re: Oakey]
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George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement. I'd take that a bit further. We commit sin but sin is what we are. I don't believe the Lord saves anyone before first showing them how utterly helpless and corrupt they are.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. Who knows some day God may confound the languages again. Wouldn't surprise me. Been to Walmart lately, esp. when a renovating crew is there? I like it when I get a new toy and the instructions has 4 languages and in order to save paper and ink it is so small I need a magnifying glass to read it and its still broken English. Thankfully some of the posters here have helped me overcome the problem with broken dialect, lol.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good. I need the Caps and Flyers to keep losing so the Wings can squeak into the playoffs. Otherwise, it’s a darn good time to be alive.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement. I'd take that a bit further. We commit sin but sin is what we are. I don't believe the Lord saves anyone before first showing them how utterly helpless and corrupt they are. True
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Re: we are losing Christians here
[Re: west river rogue]
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There you go west river, 17 or 18 having a peaceful discussion. And I'm sure many more that have the patience and temperance to just set back read and ponder.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
[Re: Gary Benson]
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. At least you getting the word,,,,,,,,Just the Wrong Word I like Erenast Angly,,,,,,,,and the Spring Water Guy.... Christian that submit under persecution,,,,,,, Aint Christians......Good Luck to Them
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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SOmanychristianstalk the talk but don't walk the walk. Yeeeesssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!! And that is what makes them ALL bad.....!
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Re: we are losing Christians here
[Re: Gary Benson]
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. Those with itching ears eager to hear his message are as guilty as he is. No different than someone who refuses to hear the gospel.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. Those with itching ears eager to hear his message are as guilty as he is. No different than someone who refuses to hear the gospel. Or drinks the Kool Aid.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Church attendance is down from all denominations. The biggest problem I have with some churches is that becoming a member/money is there main thing they seem to demand.
If I have to be a member to take part in services in God House, then they really aren't really doing God's work. I never have understood why a person has to become a member to be a Christian or be treated as an equal to the members that are members.
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Church attendance is down from all denominations. The biggest problem I have with some churches is that becoming a member/money is there main thing they seem to demand.
If I have to be a member to take part in services in God House, then they really aren't really doing God's work. I never have understood why a person has to become a member to be a Christian or be treated as an equal to the members that are members. Without membership you have no control over anything Anyone can come in and vote and soon you are in ruin. I understand what you’re saying and in any good church you don’t have to be a member to attend or be accepted. But you can’t have a vote in meetings and for good reason as all you would have to do to take over and ruin a church is get enough like minded people to come and you could take over. With wise leadership that would be very hard to do as you would be found out. Kind of like an anti trapper here not being able to pull the wool over moderators eyes
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Re: we are losing Christians here
[Re: west river rogue]
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When I find a post I don't agree with or am not interested in, I don't open it.
I think of something being crammed down someone's throat when it's called a hate crime if you don't agree with a certain lifestyle.
Remember as a kid we played army and you gave up the fort so the other side got it? Of course you don't. Little kids aren't that stupid.
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