Home

we are losing Christians here

Posted By: west river rogue

we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 08:42 AM

Brother Mark...j. staton. come on guys....we need the word.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 10:04 AM

What happend to j Staton?
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 10:06 AM

He left.
Posted By: corky

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by west river rogue
He left.

Details?
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by corky
Originally Posted by west river rogue
He left.

Details?

none
Posted By: Guss

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 12:57 PM

I herd it Chiistans have been going down every year in this country.
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 01:10 PM

Everyone has choices to make.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by trapdog1
Everyone has choices to make.

And we have the freedom of not having other people's belief crammed down our throats daily.
Posted By: Paul Dobbins

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by trapdog1
Everyone has choices to make.

And we have the freedom of not having other people's belief crammed down our throats daily.


It can't be crammed down your throat if your mouth isn't open. In other words, don't open threads you don't wish to read.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 01:21 PM

And a person doesnt learn by talking, but by listening.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by trapdog1
Everyone has choices to make.

And we have the freedom of not having other people's belief crammed down our throats daily.

Gery
Every one believes in somthing
You can only believe what your willing to swallow.
We have the freedom not to participate in a conversation we don't agree with.
If you make your self out to be a victim.
Isn't that what the woke crowd uses to try and take peaples 1st amendment rights away.
Posted By: warrior

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 01:42 PM

Still here, just contemplating Matthew 7:6.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 01:44 PM

Victim?? Hmmmm
I believe in a Creator as much as anyone else. He gave us a perfect world to live in. The rest is up to the individual as how to live in it.

Gery
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by west river rogue
Brother Mark...j. staton. come on guys....we need the word.

The Bible and the Holy Spirit will keep me well fed. Are the words of man more filling than these?
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Victim?? Hmmmm
I believe in a Creator as much as anyone else. He gave us a perfect world to live in. The rest is up to the individual as how to live in it.

Gery

I respect that.
What I'm getting at is why let other peaple opinions offend you.
If you don't agree with some ones opinion you can either choose to edify by creating a dialect.
Sometimes in a social media platform peaple are miss read and a conversation goes of the rails.
We can also choose to not be involved in a subject. Such as sports, I have little interes in professional sports.
So I don't become involved in those conversations.
I understand the world wants to cram there agendas down other peaples throats.
The Jim Jones coolaid drinkers made the choose to drink.
Do you understand were I'm coming from.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by west river rogue
Brother Mark...j. staton. come on guys....we need the word.

The Bible and the Holy Spirit will keep me well fed. Are the words of man more filling than these?

Yes
Yes sir, always let the spirit be your teacher.
And go to his word.
Posted By: Oakey

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 02:35 PM

As far as the statement cramming down my throat it’s eye opening to notice Jesus never crammed anything down anyone’s throat. After teachings he would say let he who has ears to hear hear. His final words before ascending into heaven was tell them the good news so that’s what loyal followers do. The word gospel means good news and good news it is. So simple a little child can understand it as Jesus said unless you come like a little child you cannot be saved. Little children trust as seen in a child jumping off a roof into their fathers arms. The good news ,Jesus paid our sin debt by shedding his blood on the cross to appease Gods wrath against sin for all those who put their trust in Jesus and his sacrifice. Let those who have ears to hear hear. The bad news is that all who reject this good news will be judged for their sin but that’s their choice. I tell the good news to whoever will listen but never cram anything down anyone’s throat. Every day I get totally amazed at Gods creation that all people enjoy. As the Bible says No man has any excuse for God has revealed himself through his creation as stated in Romans chapter one. No reason to get mad about this message if you don’t believe it but there is far more to negative reactions to the gospel than most could imagine.
Posted By: Mando

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 02:37 PM

Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by warrior
Still here, just contemplating Matthew 7:6.

I'm interested?
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mando
Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.

Life is good.
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 02:51 PM

What thread did J leave on?
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
What thread did J leave on?

I was wondering the same.
Posted By: DelawareRob

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by Mando
Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.

Life is good.


Sure is!

Wish I had Walleye a little closer to me here on the peninsula.

But I can get after saltwater fish so it’s all good.

Turkey season starts the 13th (De) and the 18th (MD) for me. Going to hunt Maine this spring also, so looking forward to it.
Posted By: Wild_WI

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:11 PM

We got into it, probably the cause of him leaving. Apologies.
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Wild_WI
We got into it, probably the cause of him leaving. Apologies.

about what?
Posted By: Wild_WI

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:16 PM

Disagreement about how to treat people.
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:21 PM

Well,we all need to police ourself not others. God will be the judge. It took me 20 plus yrs on to learn to ignore the people who try to ruin and derail post. Those I dont want to hear I just put on ignore and theres a few.
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
[quote=Gary Benson][quote=trapdog1]Everyone has choices to make.

It can't be crammed down your throat if your mouth isn't open. In other words, don't open threads you don't wish to read.

As Paul said.....not hard to comprehend.
Posted By: Wild_WI

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:24 PM

That was not the issue.
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:27 PM

There was no issue. Just a lot of misunderstanding. You and J weren't even talking about the same dang thing, lol.
Posted By: Wild_WI

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:28 PM

Very possible.
Posted By: west river rogue

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:30 PM

Well then Do as I did...ask him to come back....Maybe he will read it. Anybody who wants him back why not ask him? We dont need to get so upset over trivialities.
I guess we can just leave it to God.
Posted By: Moosetrot

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by west river rogue
Well then Do as I did...ask him to come back....Maybe he will read it. Anybody who wants him back why not ask him? We dont need to get so upset over trivialities.
I guess we can just leave it to God.


Then maybe we won't need the Moderators,

Moosetrot
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Moosetrot
Originally Posted by west river rogue
Well then Do as I did...ask him to come back....Maybe he will read it. Anybody who wants him back why not ask him? We dont need to get so upset over trivialities.
I guess we can just leave it to God.


Then maybe we won't need the Moderators,

Moosetrot

Hey!
Posted By: Moosetrot

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 05:13 PM

Just kidding, 330! You guys do a great job...one that I would not enjoy.

Moosetrot
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mando
Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.

Thank Christ
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
What thread did J leave on?

He said something about not spending as much time here since we can't state concerns about the political part of our lives.
Posted By: waggler

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 05:31 PM

US church attendace across all denominations has dropped by over 20% in just the last four years.

I'm not distressed by this. I'm guessing that the majority of those dropping out are cultural "christians". I think it's probably better that they not attend at all, rather than deceiving themselves. There's a better chance that the Holy Spirit will convict their hearts and draw them to God if they aren't sitting in a church thinking that attendance alone will do them good.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 05:33 PM

It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
What thread did J leave on?

He said something about not spending as much time here since we can't state concerns about the political part of our lives.

Thanks Gary,
That sounds like a legitimate reason.
I'm just glad it wasn't health or family issues.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.

Gary
I agree, there's a lot of hirelings In the prosperity gospel.
There will always be false prophets seeking there own glory
until Christ returns and the final throne judgment.
Fortunately I've seen peaple leave a church with a God fearing pastor that were struggling with themselves but blaming it on there disagreement with the truth.
Then after much prayer God moved in there lives and they returned and became pillers in the community.
It seems the more technology we get the more knowledge peaple have at there fingertips.
Knowledge can be a good thing bit is also can be bad.
Just like the tree of knowledge.
Probably the reason God confounded the languages in Babylon.
The world wide web is sort of a Babylon, withe much knowledge at our fingertips.
Who knows some day God may confound the languages again.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Posted By: Oakey

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 06:37 PM

George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement.
Posted By: Posco

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Oakey
George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement.

I'd take that a bit further. We commit sin but sin is what we are. I don't believe the Lord saves anyone before first showing them how utterly helpless and corrupt they are.
Posted By: rex123

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 06:57 PM

SOmanychristianstalk the talk but don't walk the walk.
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.


Who knows some day God may confound the languages again.
Wouldn't surprise me.


Been to Walmart lately, esp. when a renovating crew is there?

I like it when I get a new toy and the instructions has 4 languages and in order to save paper and ink it is so small I need a magnifying glass to read it and its still broken English. Thankfully some of the posters here have helped me overcome the problem with broken dialect, lol.
Posted By: Leroy Bob

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mando
Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.


I need the Caps and Flyers to keep losing so the Wings can squeak into the playoffs. Otherwise, it’s a darn good time to be alive.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by Oakey
George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement.

I'd take that a bit further. We commit sin but sin is what we are. I don't believe the Lord saves anyone before first showing them how utterly helpless and corrupt they are.

True
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 08:51 PM

I can imagine Walmart.
Haven't been for a couple years. And that was given a guy a ride for groceries.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 08:58 PM

There you go west river,
17 or 18 having a peaceful discussion.
And I'm sure many more that have the patience and temperance to just set back read and ponder. wink
Posted By: Vinke

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.


At least you getting the word,,,,,,,,Just the Wrong Word
I like Erenast Angly,,,,,,,,and the Spring Water Guy....

Christian that submit under persecution,,,,,,, Aint Christians......Good Luck to Them
Posted By: Vinke

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by rex123
SOmanychristianstalk the talk but don't walk the walk.


Yeeeesssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!! And that is what makes them ALL bad.....!
Posted By: Posco

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.

Those with itching ears eager to hear his message are as guilty as he is. No different than someone who refuses to hear the gospel.
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.

Those with itching ears eager to hear his message are as guilty as he is. No different than someone who refuses to hear the gospel.

Or drinks the Kool Aid.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/07/24 09:23 PM

I would guess that most following the prosperity preaching are babes at best in the word.
Following a man's doctrine rather than sound biblical teaching without the teaching of the Holy Spirit.
With those teaching with out the onointing.
Posted By: Oakey

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/08/24 01:59 AM

If people would just read the Bible and study it they wouldn’t get duped by charlatans like Joel.
Posted By: snowy

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/08/24 02:36 AM

Church attendance is down from all denominations. The biggest problem I have with some churches is that becoming a member/money is there main thing they seem to demand.

If I have to be a member to take part in services in God House, then they really aren't really doing God's work. I never have understood why a person has to become a member to be a Christian or be treated as an equal to the members that are members.
Posted By: Boco

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/08/24 03:15 AM

Money talks and B--- walks.
Posted By: Oakey

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/08/24 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by snowy
Church attendance is down from all denominations. The biggest problem I have with some churches is that becoming a member/money is there main thing they seem to demand.

If I have to be a member to take part in services in God House, then they really aren't really doing God's work. I never have understood why a person has to become a member to be a Christian or be treated as an equal to the members that are members.

Without membership you have no control over anything Anyone can come in and vote and soon you are in ruin. I understand what you’re saying and in any good church you don’t have to be a member to attend or be accepted. But you can’t have a vote in meetings and for good reason as all you would have to do to take over and ruin a church is get enough like minded people to come and you could take over. With wise leadership that would be very hard to do as you would be found out. Kind of like an anti trapper here not being able to pull the wool over moderators eyes
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: we are losing Christians here - 04/08/24 03:45 PM

When I find a post I don't agree with or am not interested in, I don't open it.

I think of something being crammed down someone's throat when it's called a hate crime if you don't agree with a certain lifestyle.
© 2024 Trapperman Forums