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we are losing Christians here #8116304
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Brother Mark...j. staton. come on guys....we need the word.

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What happend to j Staton?

Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: west river rogue] #8116336
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He left.

Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: west river rogue] #8116368
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Originally Posted by west river rogue
He left.

Details?

Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: corky] #8116369
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Originally Posted by corky
Originally Posted by west river rogue
He left.

Details?

none

Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: west river rogue] #8116411
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I herd it Chiistans have been going down every year in this country.

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Everyone has choices to make.

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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Everyone has choices to make.

And we have the freedom of not having other people's belief crammed down our throats daily.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: Gary Benson] #8116440
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by trapdog1
Everyone has choices to make.

And we have the freedom of not having other people's belief crammed down our throats daily.


It can't be crammed down your throat if your mouth isn't open. In other words, don't open threads you don't wish to read.



Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: west river rogue] #8116444
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And a person doesnt learn by talking, but by listening.


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Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: Gary Benson] #8116450
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by trapdog1
Everyone has choices to make.

And we have the freedom of not having other people's belief crammed down our throats daily.

Gery
Every one believes in somthing
You can only believe what your willing to swallow.
We have the freedom not to participate in a conversation we don't agree with.
If you make your self out to be a victim.
Isn't that what the woke crowd uses to try and take peaples 1st amendment rights away.

Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: west river rogue] #8116458
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Still here, just contemplating Matthew 7:6.


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Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: west river rogue] #8116461
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Victim?? Hmmmm
I believe in a Creator as much as anyone else. He gave us a perfect world to live in. The rest is up to the individual as how to live in it.

Gery


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Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: west river rogue] #8116468
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Originally Posted by west river rogue
Brother Mark...j. staton. come on guys....we need the word.

The Bible and the Holy Spirit will keep me well fed. Are the words of man more filling than these?

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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Victim?? Hmmmm
I believe in a Creator as much as anyone else. He gave us a perfect world to live in. The rest is up to the individual as how to live in it.

Gery

I respect that.
What I'm getting at is why let other peaple opinions offend you.
If you don't agree with some ones opinion you can either choose to edify by creating a dialect.
Sometimes in a social media platform peaple are miss read and a conversation goes of the rails.
We can also choose to not be involved in a subject. Such as sports, I have little interes in professional sports.
So I don't become involved in those conversations.
I understand the world wants to cram there agendas down other peaples throats.
The Jim Jones coolaid drinkers made the choose to drink.
Do you understand were I'm coming from.

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by west river rogue
Brother Mark...j. staton. come on guys....we need the word.

The Bible and the Holy Spirit will keep me well fed. Are the words of man more filling than these?

Yes
Yes sir, always let the spirit be your teacher.
And go to his word.

Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: Yes sir] #8116484
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As far as the statement cramming down my throat it’s eye opening to notice Jesus never crammed anything down anyone’s throat. After teachings he would say let he who has ears to hear hear. His final words before ascending into heaven was tell them the good news so that’s what loyal followers do. The word gospel means good news and good news it is. So simple a little child can understand it as Jesus said unless you come like a little child you cannot be saved. Little children trust as seen in a child jumping off a roof into their fathers arms. The good news ,Jesus paid our sin debt by shedding his blood on the cross to appease Gods wrath against sin for all those who put their trust in Jesus and his sacrifice. Let those who have ears to hear hear. The bad news is that all who reject this good news will be judged for their sin but that’s their choice. I tell the good news to whoever will listen but never cram anything down anyone’s throat. Every day I get totally amazed at Gods creation that all people enjoy. As the Bible says No man has any excuse for God has revealed himself through his creation as stated in Romans chapter one. No reason to get mad about this message if you don’t believe it but there is far more to negative reactions to the gospel than most could imagine.

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Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.

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Originally Posted by warrior
Still here, just contemplating Matthew 7:6.

I'm interested?

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Originally Posted by Mando
Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.

Life is good.

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What thread did J leave on?


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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
What thread did J leave on?

I was wondering the same.

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by Mando
Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.

Life is good.


Sure is!

Wish I had Walleye a little closer to me here on the peninsula.

But I can get after saltwater fish so it’s all good.

Turkey season starts the 13th (De) and the 18th (MD) for me. Going to hunt Maine this spring also, so looking forward to it.


Who is John Galt?

You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.

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Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: west river rogue] #8116532
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We got into it, probably the cause of him leaving. Apologies.

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Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: Wild_WI] #8116536
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Originally Posted by Wild_WI
We got into it, probably the cause of him leaving. Apologies.

about what?

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Disagreement about how to treat people.

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Well,we all need to police ourself not others. God will be the judge. It took me 20 plus yrs on to learn to ignore the people who try to ruin and derail post. Those I dont want to hear I just put on ignore and theres a few.

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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
[quote=Gary Benson][quote=trapdog1]Everyone has choices to make.

It can't be crammed down your throat if your mouth isn't open. In other words, don't open threads you don't wish to read.

As Paul said.....not hard to comprehend.

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That was not the issue.

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There was no issue. Just a lot of misunderstanding. You and J weren't even talking about the same dang thing, lol.


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Very possible.

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Well then Do as I did...ask him to come back....Maybe he will read it. Anybody who wants him back why not ask him? We dont need to get so upset over trivialities.
I guess we can just leave it to God.

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Originally Posted by west river rogue
Well then Do as I did...ask him to come back....Maybe he will read it. Anybody who wants him back why not ask him? We dont need to get so upset over trivialities.
I guess we can just leave it to God.


Then maybe we won't need the Moderators,

Moosetrot

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Originally Posted by Moosetrot
Originally Posted by west river rogue
Well then Do as I did...ask him to come back....Maybe he will read it. Anybody who wants him back why not ask him? We dont need to get so upset over trivialities.
I guess we can just leave it to God.


Then maybe we won't need the Moderators,

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Just kidding, 330! You guys do a great job...one that I would not enjoy.

Moosetrot

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Originally Posted by Mando
Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.

Thank Christ


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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
What thread did J leave on?

He said something about not spending as much time here since we can't state concerns about the political part of our lives.


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US church attendace across all denominations has dropped by over 20% in just the last four years.

I'm not distressed by this. I'm guessing that the majority of those dropping out are cultural "christians". I think it's probably better that they not attend at all, rather than deceiving themselves. There's a better chance that the Holy Spirit will convict their hearts and draw them to God if they aren't sitting in a church thinking that attendance alone will do them good.


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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.


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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
What thread did J leave on?

He said something about not spending as much time here since we can't state concerns about the political part of our lives.

Thanks Gary,
That sounds like a legitimate reason.
I'm just glad it wasn't health or family issues.

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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.

Gary
I agree, there's a lot of hirelings In the prosperity gospel.
There will always be false prophets seeking there own glory
until Christ returns and the final throne judgment.
Fortunately I've seen peaple leave a church with a God fearing pastor that were struggling with themselves but blaming it on there disagreement with the truth.
Then after much prayer God moved in there lives and they returned and became pillers in the community.
It seems the more technology we get the more knowledge peaple have at there fingertips.
Knowledge can be a good thing bit is also can be bad.
Just like the tree of knowledge.
Probably the reason God confounded the languages in Babylon.
The world wide web is sort of a Babylon, withe much knowledge at our fingertips.
Who knows some day God may confound the languages again.
Wouldn't surprise me.

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George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement.

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Originally Posted by Oakey
George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement.

I'd take that a bit further. We commit sin but sin is what we are. I don't believe the Lord saves anyone before first showing them how utterly helpless and corrupt they are.

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.


Who knows some day God may confound the languages again.
Wouldn't surprise me.


Been to Walmart lately, esp. when a renovating crew is there?

I like it when I get a new toy and the instructions has 4 languages and in order to save paper and ink it is so small I need a magnifying glass to read it and its still broken English. Thankfully some of the posters here have helped me overcome the problem with broken dialect, lol.

Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: Mando] #8116687
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Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good.


I need the Caps and Flyers to keep losing so the Wings can squeak into the playoffs. Otherwise, it’s a darn good time to be alive.

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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by Oakey
George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement.

I'd take that a bit further. We commit sin but sin is what we are. I don't believe the Lord saves anyone before first showing them how utterly helpless and corrupt they are.

True

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I can imagine Walmart.
Haven't been for a couple years. And that was given a guy a ride for groceries.

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There you go west river,
17 or 18 having a peaceful discussion.
And I'm sure many more that have the patience and temperance to just set back read and ponder. wink

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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.


At least you getting the word,,,,,,,,Just the Wrong Word
I like Erenast Angly,,,,,,,,and the Spring Water Guy....

Christian that submit under persecution,,,,,,, Aint Christians......Good Luck to Them


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Originally Posted by rex123
SOmanychristianstalk the talk but don't walk the walk.


Yeeeesssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!! And that is what makes them ALL bad.....!


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Re: we are losing Christians here [Re: Gary Benson] #8116726
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.

Those with itching ears eager to hear his message are as guilty as he is. No different than someone who refuses to hear the gospel.

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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen.

Those with itching ears eager to hear his message are as guilty as he is. No different than someone who refuses to hear the gospel.

Or drinks the Kool Aid.

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I would guess that most following the prosperity preaching are babes at best in the word.
Following a man's doctrine rather than sound biblical teaching without the teaching of the Holy Spirit.
With those teaching with out the onointing.

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If people would just read the Bible and study it they wouldn’t get duped by charlatans like Joel.

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Church attendance is down from all denominations. The biggest problem I have with some churches is that becoming a member/money is there main thing they seem to demand.

If I have to be a member to take part in services in God House, then they really aren't really doing God's work. I never have understood why a person has to become a member to be a Christian or be treated as an equal to the members that are members.


Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Originally Posted by snowy
Church attendance is down from all denominations. The biggest problem I have with some churches is that becoming a member/money is there main thing they seem to demand.

If I have to be a member to take part in services in God House, then they really aren't really doing God's work. I never have understood why a person has to become a member to be a Christian or be treated as an equal to the members that are members.

Without membership you have no control over anything Anyone can come in and vote and soon you are in ruin. I understand what you’re saying and in any good church you don’t have to be a member to attend or be accepted. But you can’t have a vote in meetings and for good reason as all you would have to do to take over and ruin a church is get enough like minded people to come and you could take over. With wise leadership that would be very hard to do as you would be found out. Kind of like an anti trapper here not being able to pull the wool over moderators eyes

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When I find a post I don't agree with or am not interested in, I don't open it.

I think of something being crammed down someone's throat when it's called a hate crime if you don't agree with a certain lifestyle.


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