Re: we are losing Christians here
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Everyone has choices to make. And we have the freedom of not having other people's belief crammed down our throats daily.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Everyone has choices to make. And we have the freedom of not having other people's belief crammed down our throats daily. It can't be crammed down your throat if your mouth isn't open. In other words, don't open threads you don't wish to read.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Everyone has choices to make. And we have the freedom of not having other people's belief crammed down our throats daily. Gery Every one believes in somthing You can only believe what your willing to swallow. We have the freedom not to participate in a conversation we don't agree with. If you make your self out to be a victim. Isn't that what the woke crowd uses to try and take peaples 1st amendment rights away.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Victim?? Hmmmm I believe in a Creator as much as anyone else. He gave us a perfect world to live in. The rest is up to the individual as how to live in it.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Yes sir
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Brother Mark...j. staton. come on guys....we need the word. The Bible and the Holy Spirit will keep me well fed. Are the words of man more filling than these?
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Victim?? Hmmmm I believe in a Creator as much as anyone else. He gave us a perfect world to live in. The rest is up to the individual as how to live in it.
Gery I respect that. What I'm getting at is why let other peaple opinions offend you. If you don't agree with some ones opinion you can either choose to edify by creating a dialect. Sometimes in a social media platform peaple are miss read and a conversation goes of the rails. We can also choose to not be involved in a subject. Such as sports, I have little interes in professional sports. So I don't become involved in those conversations. I understand the world wants to cram there agendas down other peaples throats. The Jim Jones coolaid drinkers made the choose to drink. Do you understand were I'm coming from.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Brother Mark...j. staton. come on guys....we need the word. The Bible and the Holy Spirit will keep me well fed. Are the words of man more filling than these? Yes Yes sir, always let the spirit be your teacher. And go to his word.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Still here, just contemplating Matthew 7:6. I'm interested?
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good. Life is good.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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What thread did J leave on? I was wondering the same.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good. Life is good. Sure is! Wish I had Walleye a little closer to me here on the peninsula. But I can get after saltwater fish so it’s all good. Turkey season starts the 13th (De) and the 18th (MD) for me. Going to hunt Maine this spring also, so looking forward to it.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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We got into it, probably the cause of him leaving. Apologies.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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There was no issue. Just a lot of misunderstanding. You and J weren't even talking about the same dang thing, lol.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Well then Do as I did...ask him to come back....Maybe he will read it. Anybody who wants him back why not ask him? We dont need to get so upset over trivialities. I guess we can just leave it to God.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Well then Do as I did...ask him to come back....Maybe he will read it. Anybody who wants him back why not ask him? We dont need to get so upset over trivialities. I guess we can just leave it to God. Then maybe we won't need the Moderators, Moosetrot
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Well then Do as I did...ask him to come back....Maybe he will read it. Anybody who wants him back why not ask him? We dont need to get so upset over trivialities. I guess we can just leave it to God. Then maybe we won't need the Moderators, Moosetrot Hey!
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good. Thank Christ
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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What thread did J leave on? He said something about not spending as much time here since we can't state concerns about the political part of our lives.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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US church attendace across all denominations has dropped by over 20% in just the last four years.
I'm not distressed by this. I'm guessing that the majority of those dropping out are cultural "christians". I think it's probably better that they not attend at all, rather than deceiving themselves. There's a better chance that the Holy Spirit will convict their hearts and draw them to God if they aren't sitting in a church thinking that attendance alone will do them good.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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What thread did J leave on? He said something about not spending as much time here since we can't state concerns about the political part of our lives. Thanks Gary, That sounds like a legitimate reason. I'm just glad it wasn't health or family issues.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. Gary I agree, there's a lot of hirelings In the prosperity gospel. There will always be false prophets seeking there own glory until Christ returns and the final throne judgment. Fortunately I've seen peaple leave a church with a God fearing pastor that were struggling with themselves but blaming it on there disagreement with the truth. Then after much prayer God moved in there lives and they returned and became pillers in the community. It seems the more technology we get the more knowledge peaple have at there fingertips. Knowledge can be a good thing bit is also can be bad. Just like the tree of knowledge. Probably the reason God confounded the languages in Babylon. The world wide web is sort of a Babylon, withe much knowledge at our fingertips. Who knows some day God may confound the languages again. Wouldn't surprise me.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement. I'd take that a bit further. We commit sin but sin is what we are. I don't believe the Lord saves anyone before first showing them how utterly helpless and corrupt they are.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. Who knows some day God may confound the languages again. Wouldn't surprise me. Been to Walmart lately, esp. when a renovating crew is there? I like it when I get a new toy and the instructions has 4 languages and in order to save paper and ink it is so small I need a magnifying glass to read it and its still broken English. Thankfully some of the posters here have helped me overcome the problem with broken dialect, lol.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Boston won the hockey game yesterday. Spring is finally here I think. It's walleyes and turkey time. Life is good. I need the Caps and Flyers to keep losing so the Wings can squeak into the playoffs. Otherwise, it’s a darn good time to be alive.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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George Whitfield in his famous sermon “ The method of grace, stated from the pulpit of a large church somewhere in Europe that he assumed most of the members there had truly never been saved. Then he said , if you have not come to the point in your life where you are truly remorseful for your sinfulness you have no right to call yourself a Christian. A very true statement. I'd take that a bit further. We commit sin but sin is what we are. I don't believe the Lord saves anyone before first showing them how utterly helpless and corrupt they are. True
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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There you go west river, 17 or 18 having a peaceful discussion. And I'm sure many more that have the patience and temperance to just set back read and ponder.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. At least you getting the word,,,,,,,,Just the Wrong Word I like Erenast Angly,,,,,,,,and the Spring Water Guy.... Christian that submit under persecution,,,,,,, Aint Christians......Good Luck to Them
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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SOmanychristianstalk the talk but don't walk the walk. Yeeeesssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!! And that is what makes them ALL bad.....!
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. Those with itching ears eager to hear his message are as guilty as he is. No different than someone who refuses to hear the gospel.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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It's giving 20% of your income that really saves you. Ask Joel Osteen. Those with itching ears eager to hear his message are as guilty as he is. No different than someone who refuses to hear the gospel. Or drinks the Kool Aid.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Church attendance is down from all denominations. The biggest problem I have with some churches is that becoming a member/money is there main thing they seem to demand.
If I have to be a member to take part in services in God House, then they really aren't really doing God's work. I never have understood why a person has to become a member to be a Christian or be treated as an equal to the members that are members.
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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Church attendance is down from all denominations. The biggest problem I have with some churches is that becoming a member/money is there main thing they seem to demand.
If I have to be a member to take part in services in God House, then they really aren't really doing God's work. I never have understood why a person has to become a member to be a Christian or be treated as an equal to the members that are members. Without membership you have no control over anything Anyone can come in and vote and soon you are in ruin. I understand what you’re saying and in any good church you don’t have to be a member to attend or be accepted. But you can’t have a vote in meetings and for good reason as all you would have to do to take over and ruin a church is get enough like minded people to come and you could take over. With wise leadership that would be very hard to do as you would be found out. Kind of like an anti trapper here not being able to pull the wool over moderators eyes
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Re: we are losing Christians here
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When I find a post I don't agree with or am not interested in, I don't open it.
I think of something being crammed down someone's throat when it's called a hate crime if you don't agree with a certain lifestyle.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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