A fool for sure.

LOL!!! Do I have a choice in any of your questions?

Are retired people contributing to the pool or only taking from it? And remember, it is distributed to millions who have not paid a red cent into it. That's your money upstate, in that general fund we all are forced to contribute. And that money is doled out to whatever constituent a hor politician thinks will vote for them.

You pay in 12% of your income to social security. I can think of A LOT better things to invest 12% of my money.

If I am to the point that SS is all I have or it is the predominance of the money I get from the government, them I am a dependent. Plain and simple. Dependents should not get to vote as they will always choose to vote themselves a raise if possible. If I get any SS my voting rights should be suspended.

Now exactly how do you get a raise on only the money you contributed? If that is your money, then you get a set amount because that is what you and you alone put in. How on GOD's green earth do you get a raise from the money you put in when that amount continues to dwindle and will be insolvent in short order?

Golly gee, that makes a whole lot of sense doesn't it?

Whose the fool?

Ticket 5 issued.

The only exception I can see is if voting a raise on SS became a ballot issue. At least I would have some say in not agreeing with a raise.

You can definitely tell who is a retiree in this discussion.

Thank you for your contribution.

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Let's ask this question.

Should a drug head on SS disability that is dependent because of their drug addiction be allowed to vote? I am talking a stoner here who still lives with Mom and Dad and has never had a job.

You don't pay in 12%, you pay in 6 and change % unless you are self employed your employer matches your contribution. People that collect SS pay tax on that money unless that is all the income you have and then you will just starve to death. Being I didn't have a choice in paying in I will collect and losing voting rights is idiotic. How about if you don't pay in to the feds you can't vote, I'd vote for that.

Social Security functions much like a flat tax. Everyone pays the same rate, regardless of how much they earn, until they hit the ceiling. As of 2021, a single rate of 12.4% is applied to all wages and self-employment income earned by a worker up to a maximum dollar limit of $142,800.

I agree on the 6% paid in by the employer but that is figured in to the cost of doing business by any smart business. So it becomes a higher cost of product to pay for the total of 12.4%. Either way the tax is paid in by the tax payer. Directly or indirectly. So you will pay in 12.4% one way or the other. Uncle Sam will get his portion squeezing one teet or the other. No way around it. And deflecting blame to the evil successful business owners who charge more for their product is SOP for liberal politicians. It also shows how dumb some of the American voters are being duped into class warfare so the politician does not get blamed.

If you don't pay into the feds you go to prison.

Again the only way around this is to make it a ballot issue and restrict SS recipients from voting on that issue. You would not be allowed to vote yourself a raise with tax payer money. Sadly, it would probably still pass due to all the different types of recipients of SS. Lots of government dependents out there.

I know some of you don't like the thought of this but I do hope you see the swirling toilet bowl of how SS will be broke sooner rather than later if people can vote themselves a raise. Politicians who say they will give SS a raise don't care about the tax payer or the SS recipient. They just keep pouring gas on the fire. It's as bad as congress voting themselves a raise every time they vote on it.

If people who vote themselves taxpayer money were not allowed to vote, you would not have very many voters left.

Not collecting SS after you'd paid into it for many years is like putting money in a personal savings account and later giving it to someone else.

There should be IQ test before someone votes.