Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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I grew a few and they were fast growing. Probably a foot a year. Like a mulberry In Canada? would they grow here in Minnesota??
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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My experience is it takes 25-30 years for a new hedge tree to produce posts. Cut trees may produce posts a bit sooner. They make the best wood posts...but are earned - best to cut when it's cold and you can wear a lot of clothes for protection. If you are wanting posts, it is a nice trait they grow back. If not wanted to grow back, better hit them with some herbicide or you will have a mess.
They burn really hot, but in a campfire will pop a lot (keeps the fellow campers hopping). Squirrels like to eat the seeds while deer and cattle eat the leaves.
Osage Orange are one of my favorite trees, but can get out of hand. I’ve always wondered how the squirrels could eat those seeds with all that sap. You’d think it would glue their mouth shut. There ought to be a market for the sap to use as a coating to put on work clothes, that is some tough stuff. You get it on your bibs it wears like iron. Pro tip, if you burn it for firewood make sure to season it and you have a stove/fireplace and chimney that can handle the heat. It has one of the highest or the highest BTU’s of all wood. It burns HOT. Green hedge will produce creosote in a chimney that’s unbelievable if left unchecked. Being in the masonry trade for 49 years l’ve seen first hand what green hedge is capable of. Seasoned hedge is all I burn in my shop, I love it.
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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I grew a few and they were fast growing. Probably a foot a year. Like a mulberry In Canada? would they grow here in Minnesota?? Remember that I am in the southernmost area of Canada, so much of Minnesota is to the north of me. I actually need to travel south to cross in to Detroit MI. I found some information (USDA) that suggests it is NOT hardy in MN, SD, ND, Northern IA and MT.
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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I grew a few and they were fast growing. Probably a foot a year. Like a mulberry In Canada? would they grow here in Minnesota?? There are some osage in very SW Wisconsin. I would say extreme southern MN might be able to support them. But, one bad winter might do them in. It'd be a gamble.
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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Hedge Apple fence rows can be made by using green OA for fence post', as they will take root and sprout! Many AO Wind break/fence rows here in Mo were started like that. The seed balls are an important food source for Quail, Turkey, Squirrels, and many other animals.
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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Yes sir
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Got some 2" ribeyes going to be cooked this weekend over seasoned Osage Orange on an outdoor firepit. Yum Yum. All I need is an address.
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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Those of us trying to sound just a little smarter than we are, use fancy terminology like "Osage Orange", when in reality we grew up calling them "hedge trees".
Kind of like - "It's time to plant corn when the leaves on the hedge trees are as big as a squirrel's ear".
Nature is reckless of the individual. Aldo Leupold.
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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Dang, I just pulled and piled a quarter mile of hedge posts. I probably should cut them up for grilling wood. Just need to prepare to sharpen the saw a time or two.
Nature is reckless of the individual. Aldo Leupold.
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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Those of us trying to sound just a little smarter than we are, use fancy terminology like "Osage Orange", when in reality we grew up calling them "hedge trees".
Kind of like - "It's time to plant corn when the leaves on the hedge trees are as big as a squirrel's ear". that last one still holds. have heard that one my whole life. them ol posts work on a chain even if you don't hit a staple but man the btu's is unreal. hard to burn any white wood after experiencing hedge heat
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Re: I'm probably an idiot... Osage orange
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I cut a lot of hedge trees for posts, but strategically leave some relatively straight ones for tree stands. I also find myself when bowhunting identifying which trees I am going to cut for posts, how many line and corner posts I can get out of them, as well as where to pile the tops for rabbitat and to encourage the deer to come near my tree stand.
I have not yet gotten to the point of planting a hedge row and weaving he branches like the old timers...but I have been thinking about it. They are a great habitat tree used correctly and until they get too big. Then they become monster corner posts. Cut them and they just grow back - renewable resource.
Nature is reckless of the individual. Aldo Leupold.
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