Totally agree and that goes for all foreign countries, the only ones I exempt are veterans and elderly

When I bring up taking away voting rights everyone gets all butt hurt.

All a politician wants is a vote. Change the voting population and you change who the politician caters to.

If you are on any type of government assistance, including SS, your voting rights are suspended. As long as you are on any type of government assistance and you get to vote, you can vote yourself a raise by voting for the deadbeat politician who is taking my money to give to you. The politicians take, not borrow, my money and tell the dependents they will give them more by taking more away from me, as long as they vote for them. Why doesn't anyone see this connection?

Military vets excluded.

They keep saying Social Security is running out of money. But, we never hear about welfare, food stamps, or money for all these immigrants coming into the country running out of money. The first group worked for their money. Most of the second group did not.

Send her to Gallup, NM. She could learn from the experts.

Just what kind of ignorant stupidity do you subscribe to ?

Millions of American citizens have payed into the Social Security program
thru their payroll taxes when they worked before their retirement.

It's not just your money, It's OUR money too.

So getting some of our money returned to us
at our retirement is a legitimate expectation.

Advocating for taking away our right to vote because
we received our Social Security taxes back at retirement
is the ultimate statement of stupidity !!!

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Worth repeating

Go stand outside a S.s. office and see what kind of people are going in to get what they have not earned or payed into opened my eyes when I was there 3 years ago.

If you are collecting Welfare then it should be federal law that:

1. You must take a weekly drug test, and randoms are possible. A "hot" result will revoke your privileges.
2. Any children in the household must attend school. If school is missed, a doctor's excuse must be presented.
3. While children are in school, the welfare recipient must either be going on job interviews and prove it or perform community service of some kind.
4. Any felony convictions while on welfare will revoke your privileges.
5. Welfare will only last 1 year. If you must reapply, further steps may be taken to investigate your inability to find employment or to deny your application.

If these rules were implemented tomorrow, most welfare would disappear within a year. The amount of money saved would more than pay for the money dished out for these rules and the people to enforce them.

Finster, I like your way of thinking!!

I was in a SS office and another fella in there was on disability with bad health but working as a dishwasher. He WANTED to work more but wasn't allowed to. He was "making too much money" washing dishes for xtra income. The whole system is messed up. They think 22,320 per year is plenty if you're under full retirement age. I'd like to see the ones setting that limit live on that much.

Yes, it is not meant to be cruel, it is meant to enforce what welfare was intended for. A short term solution until you can get back on your feet. It should not be a career choice.

It is quite obvious you do not understand how social security works.

How much money did the first person who received the first social security check put into the system?

Social security is the only legal ponzi scheme in the US.

You can wait to take social security up to 70. You should not be able to vote yourself a raise by voting for the hor who promises to increase your SS income by taxing me more.

Again, someone always gets butt hurt. Usually due to ignorance. You get ticket number 1.

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It is quite obvious you do not understand how social security works.

How much money did the first person who received the first social security check put into the system?

Social security is the only legal ponzi scheme in the US.

You can wait to take social security up to 70. You should not be able to vote yourself a raise by voting for the hor who promises to increase your SS income by taxing me more.

Again, someone always gets butt hurt. Usually due to ignorance. You get ticket number 1.
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How much will the last guy get who put in all his life until SS expires the day before he's eligible?

What most people don't realize is that the US dollar is the biggest ponzi scheme ever (not social security).
Once the US dollar is no longer the go-to currency worldwide, the scheme will crumble to the ground.
Someone explain to me how the US dollar is any different than BitCoin?
Bitcoin is based on imagination.
So is the US dollar. It is not backed by anything tangible. It's not even backed by actual physical currency. Individual banks do not have in their possession enough cash to cover what we have in our accounts with them.

Then where is all the gold that the US buys up from all the gold mines in Canada going?if your dollar is not backed by it?

The United States went off the gold standard in 1933

When it crashes, everything that has a lien on it will be repossessed. During the depression it was people who lost farms and homes that were in soup lines. People without debt did not have any money but they got by by. People that were homeless overnight became refugees. Go look at a homeless camp. Those folks are mostly addicts and mentally ill. If the dollar crashes people with a lot of secured debt will living like that.

Many of the displaced blamed bankers. Armed robbery became a favorite past time. People aided the gangs. Now people that are responsible with their money, people who live better than the welfare rats, are demonized by media. When it happens again the displaced will blame people who tried to put their families into better circumstances. At least that is what I anticipate.

I'm thinking the Bowhunter person hasn't yet put in 40 or 50 years of hard work yet.
Perhaps paying into SS weekly for all of those years, many hard workers bodies after 40 or 50 years of labor won't support hard work any more.
Have the CPA's, Lawyers, ect all non hard labor but important jobs work till 75 hard labor jobs worked more than 50% of life, retire at 60 years old.
Social Security is getting like the Michigan carpenter union pension, the Union whizzed away pension $$$ Now they keep raising age and lowering benefits.
It's my opinion that every dollar earned pays SS. no wage cap, zero. I pay SS tax on every dollar I earn everyone should on every dollar.
Second SS age should be adjusted for type of work done for more than 50 % of work life.

Just a matter of time until SS is gone,,,,

People need to have alternate plans

The truth