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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8085788
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Jesse Jackson said an AR-15 can take down an airplane.

Shelia Jackson Lee said an AR-15 is as heavy as ten boxes you might be moving and shoots a 50 cal bullet.

Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Trap Setter] #8085792
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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
I will respectfully disagree with "unloaded guns don't kill people". Many accidents are with presumed to be unloaded firearms. The problem is, thinking it's unloaded, people think it's safe and forget the rules of gun safety.

Dumbest thing I can remember hearing? ... I'm going to switch it to fully semi automatic. Said by some high ranking military guy on live TV

Unloaded means just that , No ammo in the chamber or in the mag. try and shoot yourself with that .


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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8085804
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My favorite was a newscaster talking about a 45 mm handgun.

Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8085812
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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8085825
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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: canebrake] #8085841
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Originally Posted by canebrake
Jesse Jackson said an AR-15 can take down an airplane.



so does a goose sucked into a jet engine on take off. setting a low standard there.

I am sure if you tossed a 30 inch pipe in a jet engine it would also bring down the plane.

maybe we should use guns to clear geese from runways it seems a lot more likely that geese fly into jet engines than expensive AR-15 rifles.


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Originally Posted by Knappett
"Turkish shotguns are top notch quality" lol!


did they start a brand named top notch quality?


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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Snowpa] #8085873
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
Originally Posted by Trap Setter
I will respectfully disagree with "unloaded guns don't kill people". Many accidents are with presumed to be unloaded firearms. The problem is, thinking it's unloaded, people think it's safe and forget the rules of gun safety.

Dumbest thing I can remember hearing? ... I'm going to switch it to fully semi automatic. Said by some high ranking military guy on live TV

Unloaded means just that , No ammo in the chamber or in the mag. try and shoot yourself with that .

exactly, thats the point. Its not possible...If it discharged it was loaded.. Now I understand why folks use the anology, its just not a good one because it often confuses new shooters.. We as old shooters understand it, new ones often dont and I mean that literally.... Instead of saying "people have been shot with unloaded gun" say " folks have been shot with guns they thought were unloaded".... Just my opinion anyway

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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8085874
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by canebrake
Jesse Jackson said an AR-15 can take down an airplane.



so does a goose sucked into a jet engine on take off. setting a low standard there.

I am sure if you tossed a 30 inch pipe in a jet engine it would also bring down the plane.

maybe we should use guns to clear geese from runways it seems a lot more likely that geese fly into jet engines than expensive AR-15 rifles.

Jesse Jackson is one of the biggest morons to ever draw a breath.

Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: trapdog1] #8085907
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Originally Posted by trapdog1

Jesse Jackson is one of the biggest morons to ever draw a breath.


Nope,

AL Sharpton is head & shoulders above Jessie on the Moron Meter !!! laugh

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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: walleyed] #8085910
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by trapdog1

Jesse Jackson is one of the biggest morons to ever draw a breath.


Nope,

AL Sharpton is head & shoulders above Jessie on the Moron Meter !!! laugh

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Can't argue with you there!

Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: KYBOY] #8085931
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Originally Posted by KYBOY
Unloaded guns have shot people.... Ive told every hunters ed class Ive taught.. Unloaded guns never shot anyone, that's why we unload guns for safety, and for that matter no gun has ever shot anyone. The person holding it does that..


several ways to approach that with students
Unloaded guns don't shoot people. But guns people though were unloaded fired and that happens way to often for a number of reasons.
Level of training be darned because a lot of cops have had NDs some even in public places on film for us to see what they did wrong.

class , what do they call it when you point a loaded gun at someone head and pull the trigger? answer: Murder

class , What do you call it when you point a gun you think is unloaded at someone and pull the trigger and it wasn't unloaded?
answer : it can have a few different names but negligent homicide or something to that effect.
the only difference is intent the person is still just as dead.

Everyone gets tired everyone makes mistakes , everyone.
So all of our safety rules are layered so that you have to break multiple safety rules.

Treat every gun as loaded.
Alwasy keep the muzzle in a safe direction.
Be sure of your target and what is beyond.
Keep your finger out of the trigger guard until your sights are on the target

then we unpack what each of those mean beyond saying them.


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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: KYBOY] #8085937
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Originally Posted by KYBOY
Unloaded guns have shot people.... Ive told every hunters ed class Ive taught.. Unloaded guns never shot anyone, that's why we unload guns for safety, and for that matter no gun has ever shot anyone. The person holding it does that..

I've told that to the firearms classes I've taught as well. But, it's to remind people that it's not OK to expect a firearm to be unloaded because people have been shot by a gun they "thought" was unloaded. That's why you need to check every firearm to make sure it's unloaded.


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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8085939
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Nancy Pelosi when referring to an AR15 once said, "These are the same weapons soldiers take into battle."


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Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8085946
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I wonder who told Nancy it was bad if civilians had access to any firearm they wanted?


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Sleepy Joe said " nobody needs a gun that holds 30 rounds in the chamber".

Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8086088
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More than 600 people die everyday as a result of firearms violence, which is driven by easy access to firearms. "Amnesty International". They neglect to say that the vast majority of these deaths are in countries where gun ownership is already banned. Google FBI crime statistics in the U.S. and way more people are killed by hands and feet than "assault" weapons, or all guns.

Re: What are some stupid things you heard about guns [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8086120
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you will hear numbers like 40K people die to gun violence in the US as a reason to ban semi auto rifles.
they are using 36K suicides to get that 40K number for the number killed

meaning 90% only needed a single shot to do their deed and it was self inflicted and intentional.

of all 40K only 600 used a rifle of any type single shot , semi , bolt , pump , lever so 1.5% of deaths in the US involve a rifle including suicides


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