Re: FHA preliminary offering
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02/17/24 04:13 PM
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Dirt
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It was a rhetorical question. However, no way for me personally to know. I don't listen to the auction. They may have just raised valuation and everybody took those beaver at minimums. I'm a long way from North Bay and I don't sell beaver there and most likely never will. I have different markets.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
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02/17/24 04:48 PM
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I get a real chuckle out of someone bragging they set the market. Everybody knows BOCO sets the market in the Province of Ontario !!! When the Canadian Super Trapper talks........the fur market listens !!! BOCO is the E.F. Hutton of the fur industry world-wide !!! w You got that right. I'm a glass half full man. Not a glass half empty like Gibb and Dirt.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: gibb]
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02/17/24 05:44 PM
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Boco Better known by trappers in Ontario as our token "Post Turtle" This post seems somewhat flaming & derogatory !!! w
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: walleyed]
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02/17/24 06:40 PM
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Boco Better known by trappers in Ontario as our token "Post Turtle" This post seems somewhat flaming & derogatory !!! w HA HA nothing new from the gibber,lol.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Rat Masterson]
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02/17/24 07:21 PM
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something to keep this thread going....just think the auction is only a month away and only 9 pages with 9K views these old threads use to have 3 times the views.... oh by the way Rat Masterson seems that Gibb did a Sheldon Bazinga
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: mud]
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02/17/24 10:02 PM
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Post turtle is someone whose slow to respond…..LOL. No, I had to search it.
“An old rancher pinched his hand in a squeeze gate to the point of needing stiches. While his doctor was stitching him up their conversation came around to politics, when the doctor asked the old man what he thought of the current President. The rancher responded by saying he thought the President was no more than a "Post Turtle." He further explained, "When you're driving down an old country road and you come up upon a turtle balanced on a fence post, that's a post turtle." Noting the curious look on the doctor's face, he realized that the doctor still did not understand, so he continued, "You know he didn't have the ability to get there himself, he has no idea how he got there or what he's doing, he has no natural ability to accomplish anything from there, and you can't help but wonder what idiot put him there. You can only pity him, for the injuries he'll receive when he falls from that post." Pretty dang funny right there!
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: wissmiss]
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02/17/24 10:11 PM
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Gibb has given you a simplified version of string lots. It can get much more complicated and some times politics gets involved.
A bidder can “drop” “out” “up”. All timed to the drop of the hammer. Unless otherwise stated by the auctioneer, the hammer drops for each lot as it is sold. That can happen very fast!! That is why you will see different prices for various lots in the string.
I would post an example but I think for most of you it would be too confusing. And you would ask too many questions. Thanks, that explains some of what went on last auction. I could hear bidders asking if they got past lots, and the auctioneer saying no. Some lots in the same string getting a few bucks more that the one previous. Bidder confusion and missing out before the the hammer drops.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Shakeyjake]
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02/17/24 10:36 PM
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Post turtle is someone whose slow to respond…..LOL. No, I had to search it.
“An old rancher pinched his hand in a squeeze gate to the point of needing stiches. While his doctor was stitching him up their conversation came around to politics, when the doctor asked the old man what he thought of the current President. The rancher responded by saying he thought the President was no more than a "Post Turtle." He further explained, "When you're driving down an old country road and you come up upon a turtle balanced on a fence post, that's a post turtle." Noting the curious look on the doctor's face, he realized that the doctor still did not understand, so he continued, "You know he didn't have the ability to get there himself, he has no idea how he got there or what he's doing, he has no natural ability to accomplish anything from there, and you can't help but wonder what idiot put him there. You can only pity him, for the injuries he'll receive when he falls from that post." Pretty dang funny right there! HA HA,I didnt know what he was talking about The gibber fell off the post twice,lol once at FHA and once at NAFA,lol.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Shakeyjake]
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02/18/24 01:45 AM
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Gibb has given you a simplified version of string lots. It can get much more complicated and some times politics gets involved.
A bidder can “drop” “out” “up”. All timed to the drop of the hammer. Unless otherwise stated by the auctioneer, the hammer drops for each lot as it is sold. That can happen very fast!! That is why you will see different prices for various lots in the string.
I would post an example but I think for most of you it would be too confusing. And you would ask too many questions. Thanks, that explains some of what went on last auction. I could hear bidders asking if they got past lots, and the auctioneer saying no. Some lots in the same string getting a few bucks more that the one previous. Bidder confusion and missing out before the the hammer drops. That happens when a number of buyers have the same bid on a lot, a really good auctioneer knows how to feed the room the late Kevin Douse was the best I ever seen at this. He made sure all the buyers bought fur, a bad auctioneer hammers down all the goods to one buyer and that is really bad for the trade.At times you will hear the auctioneer pause trying to sort this out, can be very confusing and chaotic. There can be a lot going on during an live auction and most folks don't always understand what is going on. A really good auctioneer will call out the bidders # not the bidder's name.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Rat Masterson]
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02/18/24 10:47 AM
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Slick, I have about 1% of the rats offered, does that help. That is a start. Not knowing you except your occasional post do you buy them to resell or do you trap them ? I am in hopes those who claim to know like Nancy, Boco and Gibb could give us a better understanding of exactly what's what.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Slick Pan]
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02/18/24 11:21 AM
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this question is for all the post turtles and those select few that know:
what is the percentage of fur consigned by individual trappers to FHA? by fur buyers to FHA ? I am not going to be any help on this question. Hesitant to even take a guess. I think gibb would have some insight because he has worked behind the scenes at both NAFA and FH. It is a very interesting question though.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Slick Pan]
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02/18/24 11:23 AM
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Slick, I have about 1% of the rats offered, does that help. That is a start. Not knowing you except your occasional post do you buy them to resell or do you trap them ? I am in hopes those who claim to know like Nancy, Boco and Gibb could give us a better understanding of exactly what's what. The majority of the fur will be intersorted trapper goods, small time buyers would also be intersorted, Bigger buyers aka dealers with enough goods to put up on their own will have limits and if you listen to the auction you will hear the auctioneer offer them out at the limit or if the auction is going badly simple state those lots have limits. Most big time dealers have direct contacts into the trade to move goods, where they ship to auction is mainly but not only, species they don't have buyers for. When you buy directly from the trappers you sometimes buy drips n drags that you may not have a home for. Say you buy a few dozen otter from beaver trappers they may ship the otter to auction. Bigger players will sell at auction making prearranged deals on commission and limits. The auction house much preffer intersorted trapper goods because they can sell them freely into the market and make their money on packing and other fees.
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