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Trash to Energy #8076978
02/14/24 03:17 PM
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Not gonna. Get on the whole methane bad or whatever train but thought this was Pretty neat stuff. Trash to energy. See it in the same light as composting or something



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Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8077031
02/14/24 05:15 PM
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They pipe the gas of the dump in Evansville, my buddys father in law works for the company doing it.

Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8077041
02/14/24 05:34 PM
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A buddy worked for Waste Management they could light the pipes sticking out of the ground they burned like touches and it was a big pipe.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8077063
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I'm a fan of composting. Don't know enough about methane production to comment.


wanna be goat farmer.
Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8077080
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I worked on a couple of different methane digesters(mostly dairy waste) -- neat idea -- all of them have failed to be operational within 5 years. Every one of them were trying to run a generator -- apparently methane is a little hard on motors. I do believe that if they burned it to run a steam gen they would have been much more successful. As always once the initial gov money ran out the "green energy" company would vanish leaving a disaster of buildings and equipment for the farmers to clean up.

Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8077231
02/14/24 09:25 PM
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The Belle Meade Mansion near Nashville Tn, built before the Civil War, piped methane from decomposing horse manure into the mansion to fuel gas lights.

Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8077237
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look up the Harrisburg PA and Vienna Austria Incinerators...

they looked good on PAPER!!!

Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8078001
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Been looking at how to use methane on our little place, we have pigs and goats and chickens , so plenty of fuel. We have some solar panels powering our freezers and a water pump but would feel better with being less dependent on the power company

Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8078014
02/15/24 03:24 PM
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Trash is so mishandled like many solutions they fail, our local landfill is a few miles away in the past I paid for garbage pickup the guy retired and sold to the competition they tried to raise the fee after taking over. The fee went from $68 to $75 every 3-4 months so I canceled the service.

I have 2 burn barrels that I empty yearly and the bottle/can trash cans (2) a couple times a year. I often pay the minimum fee $14 to dump months and months of what’s remaining after burning what I can. I haul other household trash that the trash haulers would charge extra for or not take on the same loads saving me the extra fees that I would have occurred.

I hauled the mess from the fire last year they did not charge me since I often don’t being the minimum weight I’d guess I pay under $100 a year to haul my own trash. I did take a load of old tires in 25 that cost me around $85 last year so it’s worth while to haul my own trash.

No trash to energy but it sure reduced the space taken up in the landfill.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Law Dog] #8078016
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Trash is so mishandled like many solutions they fail, our local landfill is a few miles away in the past I paid for garbage pickup the guy retired and sold to the competition they tried to raise the fee after taking over. The fee went from $68 to $75 every 3-4 months so I canceled the service.

I have 2 burn barrels that I empty yearly and the bottle/can trash cans (2) a couple times a year. I often pay the minimum fee $14 to dump months and months of what’s remaining after burning what I can. I haul other household trash that the trash haulers would charge extra for or not take on the same loads saving me the extra fees that I would have occurred.

I hauled the mess from the fire last year they did not charge me since I often don’t being the minimum weight I’d guess I pay under $100 a year to haul my own trash. I did take a load of old tires in 25 that cost me around $85 last year so it’s worth while to haul my own trash.

No trash to energy but it sure reduced the space taken up in the landfill.

burn them tires on a dark night they dont smoke then


The only place you find free cheese is in a mousetrap !
Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8078027
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Just got back from 3+ weeks flats fishing in the Caribbean(Belize)

The amount of plastic on the beaches,,,, every beach,,,,in the mangroves,,,,floating in sea


It’s mind boggling,,,,humans are so nasty,,disgusting. It’s unsubstanable!!


Not sure what the answer/solution is???????


Best thing I can come up with, is somehow burning the plastics for energy

Create a market for it similar to the scap metal market

Encourage people to collect it and get paid

It’s certainly an issue that humans need to tackle.ASAP!!!!

Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8078041
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Those pics from the last Olympic Games were disgusting what they had for endless trash floating in the water plus the hazards with the waters content.

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Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Trash to Energy [Re: spjones] #8078043
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We have dozens of digesters in our area and some have been running for over 25 years. None have failed but yes the gas produced by the dairy waste is not really clean or scrubbed well if you will and it is hard on the generators. The Generators from Europe held up a lot better in the early years the the USA made generators. Dairy manure is a lower quality waste to create gas so many have lined up other firms with cooking oils etc. from the food and restaurant business which really increases the amount of gas and some improvement in the quality as well. The bigger operations are now not generating gas for electricity as the biggest hurdle for almost everyone with a digester was working with and negotiating with the utility companies. They wanted the "green energy" but were not willing to pay any premium at all for the most part. So now there are farms forming companies and they take huge amounts of manure, (some piping the liquid 4-5 miles) and they scrub it clean and then sell it right into the pipelines as high quality propane and don't work with the utiility companies at all. Transporting 97% liquid manure over longer distances is not a profitable venture. The good thing for smaller dairies is they can contract with the large companies if close by and deliver their manure and be part of the newer technology that way.

Bryce

Re: Trash to Energy [Re: Wolfdog91] #8078046
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I didn't watch the video, but that is one nasty flame.


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Re: Trash to Energy [Re: spjones] #8078079
02/15/24 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by spjones
Just got back from 3+ weeks flats fishing in the Caribbean(Belize)

The amount of plastic on the beaches,,,, every beach,,,,in the mangroves,,,,floating in sea


It’s mind boggling,,,,humans are so nasty,,disgusting. It’s unsubstanable!!


Not sure what the answer/solution is???????


Best thing I can come up with, is somehow burning the plastics for energy

Create a market for it similar to the scap metal market

Encourage people to collect it and get paid

It’s certainly an issue that humans need to tackle.ASAP!!!!


Actually burning trash to make energy has been going on for a while
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From what I’ve observed over the past 15 or so years. Travelling too multiple salt water fishing spots per year


The amount of plastic seems too be doubling every few years

Greta, AL and company have made fortunes pumping the climate change scam,,,,,,,

The plastic-energy facility’s likely work as shown in your clip. But have yet to see one(or hear of one) anywhere I’ve ever been. There’s absolutely a huge need for them around world

Co2 is invisible,,,,,,, plastic’s are very visible to some. Just not the majority of the population

It’s telling that they focus much more of Co2

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