Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
[Re: cathryn]
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Ya'll be ok until spring, that's when ALL the southern junker's will hit the markets and boom! Felt for everyone for decades to come, lol. We been in a bad drought though, worst ive ever seen all season so ALOT of swamps have been bone dry all winter. Starting to get some floods now to fill them back up but it's dipping down next week to single digits so going to be a ice rink to trap in, not sure how many rebel trapper's know to trap under the ice.
Ms. sale is the third weekend in Feb. so imagine they will be over ran in green beaver hides.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
[Re: Steven 49er]
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You did well Jim.
I'm hearing FHA predicts the beaver market will advance, have you been hearing the same?
LOL they have been saying a lot in the last month since we shipped 6,000 beaver from Ontario to Illinois. Castor market is going up? Beaver market going up? Marten market going up? March is still a long ways off. Longer still to get paid in April. I have not heard anything bad about the beaver market.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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To do that at the auction I would have needed to do $41.61 cdn or $30.79 US average between the 11% comission $3.89 per skin,shipping .44 per beaver and we pay a $2.00 royalty per skin. Plus a weeks work to put them up. $35.38 CDN $25.90 US in my pocket Seems good but up to the big bvr producers to say and time will tell w comparison w March sale results and what appears, IMO, to be a rising market. Obvious question, like I posted on Canadian forum thought, is Jim you are both the GFW buyer and the seller here? Would Joe Blow get the same prices?
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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To do that at the auction I would have needed to do $41.61 cdn or $30.79 US average between the 11% comission $3.89 per skin,shipping .44 per beaver and we pay a $2.00 royalty per skin. Plus a weeks work to put them up. $35.38 CDN $25.90 US in my pocket You must have a connection with someone there, The guys that sold to GFW here a couple weeks ago got a 20 dollar and some change avg.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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No selling early for southern trappers, they have to wait till the end of season to find out what they caught is worth. Imagine the southern trapper association auction's will be over ran with green beaver and by then they should be back down to their normal 4.00 top price, hope i can attend one just to watch the cussing going on lol. Where are all those southern beaver trappers that are gonna flood the market you speak of J? They sure aren't any within 100 plus miles of me.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
[Re: cathryn]
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$20 to $25 (US dollars) average for green Canadian beaver is definitely off from last March. Southern green & frozen beaver last March were averaging that. This March will likely see our green hatters avg below $20.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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Average price from FHA last year for all Ontario beavers sold, all grades, was 36.32 CAD for beaver. Sounds like you had a good price for green beaver Jim, lots of time saved on fleshing and boarding. Will be interesting to see if the market advances on Beaver, I am guessing it holds pretty close to the value's from last year, with good clearance again. The top needs to move up before there's a true recovery in the beaver market. Below is average prices for all Ontario skins sold through auction houses in Ontario, so FHA as they are the only one left standing. The muskrat one is misleading as they sold only the best lots and they do not factor in the stuff offered and not sold. I averaged 9.75 on muskrats last sale but only sold three, with 80 held back. The stuff with high clearances gives me a good gauge on true averages for the year,
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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the harvest for beaver so far this season is lower than it has been around here-drought and less trappers for sure. Gas prices etc.. all come into play. Spring time trapping in Ontario Minnesota etc.. will provide some good numbers of skins. Manitoba guys will find it hard to beat if and if you are Metis. I think FHA numbers will be way down until the second sale. As we all know processing beavers takes time to put up and dry. Again the second sale will have have some better numbers JMO Will it satisfy the market? I doubt it very much-so the sell early thing? MEH beaver trappers will do well all year-hammer down smack while you can and catch as many as you can.
tight cables and chains guys and gals-and may your beaver boards be full until summer comes again
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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To do that at the auction I would have needed to do $41.61 cdn or $30.79 US average between the 11% comission $3.89 per skin,shipping .44 per beaver and we pay a $2.00 royalty per skin. Plus a weeks work to put them up. $35.38 CDN $25.90 US in my pocket Seems good but up to the big bvr producers to say and time will tell w comparison w March sale results and what appears, IMO, to be a rising market. Obvious question, like I posted on Canadian forum thought, is Jim you are both the GFW buyer and the seller here? Would Joe Blow get the same prices? Frank I treat everybody the same it all depends on what you bring to the table, size and fur quality equal the price. My beaver my average, I start later in the season and use mainly lure so my size is good. I buy a lot of small beaver in Ontario because we are forced to by regulation and are season starts Oct. 5th. All I can tell you is I can't keep up with the enquires right now.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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$27 US on beaver $24 US on otter At FHA last year. You know the fur market is unusual when Southern green averages same as FHA put up fur. Bobcat is the only item (that we have here) that was very different...$103 US at FHA vs top of $60 here in the South...all put up pelts.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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the harvest for beaver so far this season is lower than it has been around here-drought and less trappers for sure. Gas prices etc.. all come into play. Spring time trapping in Ontario Minnesota etc.. will provide some good numbers of skins. Manitoba guys will find it hard to beat if and if you are Metis. I think FHA numbers will be way down until the second sale. As we all know processing beavers takes time to put up and dry. Again the second sale will have have some better numbers JMO Will it satisfy the market? I doubt it very much-so the sell early thing? MEH beaver trappers will do well all year-hammer down smack while you can and catch as many as you can.
tight cables and chains guys and gals-and may your beaver boards be full until summer comes again A lot of spring beaver can't get put up in time for last receiving date for the June sale. Just saying (as WissMiss says).
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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It seems odd that caster prices would drop as much as they have, and beaver prices would go up due to a shortage.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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Does not take long for the commercial rabbit /meat market to produce a wack of fur for the hot market market . $20 to $25 (US dollars) average for green Canadian beaver is definitely off from last March. Southern green & frozen beaver last March were averaging that. This March will likely see our green hatters avg below $20. remember that those beaver do not reach full felt production till say the 1 week of Dec. And this market is all about pounds of felt/hide
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
[Re: cathryn]
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$27 US avg on Ontario-caught beaver sold thru FHA....according to the list Saskfly posted.
Deep Southern US beaver are about the same heft in January as they are in July. Personally, I've never sold a beaver on site by weight. Last March, I saw several hundred green/frozen Georgia beaver bought with avgs $25 to $27.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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MNRat,
I'm hearing country buyers are at $15-$20/lb and that many folks expect come March it will be higher. It is completely supply & demand right now and demand is good (or even great) while supply is not projecting like what a lot of folks thought. FHA will not have double the beaver for their March sale compared to last year, imho.
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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Does anyone have knowledge of any Finished Beaver prices recently? Even if it is by the pond, I haven't even seen any current pricing for that either? Anyone have any insight? Mnratman At the Iowa sale last Saturday, 23 finished beaver averaged $34.65. 199 green beaver averaged $19.56. Hope that helps!
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often
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MNRat,
I'm hearing country buyers are at $15-$20/lb and that many folks expect come March it will be higher. It is completely supply & demand right now and demand is good (or even great) while supply is not projecting like what a lot of folks thought. FHA will not have double the beaver for their March sale compared to last year, imho. I don't think there will be any surge of Southern beavers hitting the market. We just don't have the trappers. There might be a few more beaver from the northern tier of US and maybe Canada.
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