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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: gcs] #7950280
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These have been great out of the 30-30 marlin have used them for quite some time with great success. I inherited my grandad's 35 so .make sure you give the report if you try them.

Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: gcs] #7950388
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Thanks for all the answers. I ordered four boxes from Bass Pro. They were pretty salty at $48.00 a box but it will keep family members hunting with the old 336 for a while.

Originally Posted by Savell
It’ll work fine for deer…. You will probably need to sight your gun to it as it’ll likely shoot higher than the core lock



Originally Posted by gcs
I've been using the 30-30 version after years of using corelokts, these LE's are like a 30-30 on steroids, it's a next level of performance, especially if your hunting small properties or at dusk, they rarely get out of sight of the shot. BUT....some rifles don't like them, I'd try a box before you commit to them, and you will have to re sight the gun . Friend of mine uses them in a 35 and is happy with the performance.

They don't kill any deader, but faster, so easy to find.


I'll be sighting in/re-zeroing with the new ammo for sure. Just as soon as we use up the last of the Core-Lokts.


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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950391
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ADC, I'm thinking the extra 800 FPS the .35 has over the .44 makes a difference in terminal performance/expansion. According to most of the guys above it does.

I've always used 165 grain jacketed HP's (Core-Lokts) in my .357 for deer. At first I was worried about under-penetration but they will go right thru a broadside/rib cage shot deer and leave a good-size exit wound.


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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: sako22] #7950394
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Originally Posted by sako22
I have feeding problems with them in my marlin 1895 45-70 guide gun. The tip makes them too long to feed up into the chamber from the magazine. Just something to keep in mind on your marlin. I have read where you can drill a divet in the follower to allow for the extra lenght but i just shoot winchester super x flat nose in it


Keeping my fingers crossed that it won't be an issue for me.


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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950407
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I own a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington and all I use is LEVERevolution. It is extremely accurate and hammers deer and pigs.

Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950441
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I use them in my Marlin 336 in 35 rem. Mine is a 1950! It does seem like a sin to use them but they work fine for me.

Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950487
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If you have a feeding issue there's a replacement follower you can install, I think it's mainly 35's and 45-70s that some have an issue with.

Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950503
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I have no problems with expansion or terminal ballistics on deer or pigs. A good example is this doe I shot. That is lung on her shoulder. It blew both lungs completely out of her. The other picture is on of her shoulders. [Linked Image]
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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950639
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
ADC, I'm thinking the extra 800 FPS the .35 has over the .44 makes a difference in terminal performance/expansion.


Yes. Very well could be, that is why I said what I did in my first sentence. I don't have any first hand knowledge from them in other calibers. Just thought, since they were brought up, I'd mention how they preform in a .44 for anyone wondering. Thanks for mentioning that. I should of added it to my post.

Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: ~ADC~] #7950646
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by Lugnut
ADC, I'm thinking the extra 800 FPS the .35 has over the .44 makes a difference in terminal performance/expansion.


Yes. Very well could be, that is why I said what I did in my first sentence. I don't have any first hand knowledge from them in other calibers. Just thought, since they were brought up, I'd mention how they preform in a .44 for anyone wondering. Thanks for mentioning that. I should of added it to my post.


… well hopefully you’ll do better next time… everyone’s getting pretty tired of it


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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950650
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grin I'll try harder. I'd hate for you to have to open a can of whoopass on me.

Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950651
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… I keep an aerosol spray can full of know it all Iowa yankee whoopass in the bed of my truck


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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950672
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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7950911
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I hav an older marlin 336 30-30 microgroove and it does NOT like the lever evolution at all. I was lucky to keep a pie pan. I was really hoping it would work.

Reloaded with some 170 round nose and got a super accurate load.

Works with some guns, not with others.

Good luck.


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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7951557
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Boy I thought that I did good at $65 after seeing them for sale here for $85 last year. $48 is a better deal, but I probably bought enough to last my life time......jk


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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7951563
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Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: Lugnut] #7951720
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I've not been around them in a 35, but I've seen them used quite a bit on bears in 30-30, 45/70, 450 Marlin and 444 Marlin. At least in the last three (45/70 and 450 in particular) they were bad to blow apart and grenade. Hit a big bone and you are likely to have little pieces of copper and lead scattered all over. They did kill good and are much flatter shooting than flatnosed rounds though. I never used them myself, but several friends did and I have guided a number of people also who used them. Several of them gave me their used 45/70 brass, you can load other brands of bullets in it fine, but it is a tenth of an inch shorter, which creates two problems. A)less case capacity so the same amount of powder loaded in a Hornady case as compared to a Starline, Remington, etc., creates significantly higher pressure. B)If you aren't using Hornady dies it is likely that your dies will not adjust down to roll crimp the case (I know my Lee dies will not) this can be an issue in a tube magazine.

I don't like the brass for that reason, and I would be leery of using the smaller calibers, particularly on larger, tougher game like elk, if they have the same tendency to grenade as the large calibers do.

Re: LEVERevolution Terminal Performance? [Re: ~ADC~] #7951735
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
They are not worth a crap in .44 mag out of a Henry Carbine. Yes they are accurate but you get near zero expansion and blood trails are very light. Just pokes a tiny hole through a deer hit in the ribs, deer takes off like you missed completely. I will never buy them again. This is the same results we got from Hornady SST ammo in 12 ga as well. I shot a deer twice through the rib cage, holes less than an inch apart and it never even flinched, just kept running. If it were not for snow in the ground, I likely never would of recovered it. Looked like a clean miss and blood specks so little they could of been easily missed. It did open up after 30 yards but turned me off that ammo too.

My boy shot a deer with one on a quartering away shot was slightly off target so the bullet went nearly the full length of the deer and was recovered on the opposite shoulder. This is how we figured out the expansion problem.

Here's the recovered bullet from it...

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Compare that to our preferred round...

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I shoot jacketed hollow points in my Ruger 44 carbine and they expand just like those. Very deadly. High chest, low chest, neck. None of the deer go more than 18 inches straight down in a pile. The bullet ends up just under the hide on the opposite side. Some claim that they prefer an exit hole for blood trailing. I don't ever have a blood trailing problem. I just roll the deer over. It's all right there underneath it.
That bullet in that caliber blows the lungs out better than Joe Biden's infamous 9mm. smile I'd guess that the 35 Remington would perform very similarly.

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