Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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Have always shot split fingers if I didn't use a release but just hasn't been working. Thought it was the cheap arrows I bought and the fact my bare fingers where killing me after 50shots. Went on the shop got some nice arrows made and a stop installed along with finger savers and was still having problems with spit fingers. Said screw it and start trying three under and surprisingly started grouping way better. Only 12yd but you can see the difference. That being said I was trying to hit the cent target . Seems I just keep hitting high right for some reason. Guess I just need to aim low left. Anyway Split fingers Three under This kinda thing normal ? As in better groups by just changing finger placement? Thanks
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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Without sights, You are better off going with pure instinctive shooting. It involves doing everything the same every shot. Your eyes focused on where you want the arrow to hit. Your hands will dictate where the arrow ends up. It is amazing how that works. With one hand contacting your face at the same place every time, and the other fully extended on the bow is all that your hands need to remember to get you on target. A classic example of how this works is for you to close your eyes and point at the hangnail on your big toe of your right foot, Open your eyes and you will see that it will be. I do not know how this works. I just know that it does, and knowing this will make you a better instinct shooter. If not, then your hands need to ride the short bus to school. I learned this invaluable method with a very small Nerf bow which shot standard Nerf ammo. It operated similar to a regular bow in principle, but was way to small for a face plant. I held it out away from my body and freed my mind of thought and let my hands do all of thinking. It wasn't long before I got real good at it. What motivated me to even try this was that there was a house cat which I was trying to hit with it, Motivation indeed. They funny this is, the cat didn't mind at all. It actually chased them down after I hit it numerous times. Then the children started crying and I was asked to go home.
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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This book will tell you what you need to know and it’s inexpensive.
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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That book helped me a ton 20 yds with a Howard hill cheetah #60
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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Remember three things. A properly spined arrow goes exactly where it is pointed, and keep the arrow directly below (like plumb in carpentry) your eye, and the bow is just the thing the arrow sits on.
When the arrow is directly below your eye, windage is easy because you line up the arrow back and forth naturally. Then it is the elevation that you concentrate on most.
The bow does not factor in your sighting, other than to move the arrow. Concentrate on that arrow and “feeling” exactly where it is pointed then when it is pointed at what you want hit, let go. Bow cant (tilt) can vary quite a bit, and still the arrow goes right where it is pointed at the moment of release. I have arrowed deer with my bow nearly vertical and horizontal and even one laying down with my bow inches above the ground. It can absolutely be done with instinctive shooting.
Also make sure you are gripping the string just with the last bones in your fingers. Never past that that first joint.
I used to say I can outshoot any sighted compound shooter from odd positions, at flying targets, and put three arrows down range to a compounds one arrow. And I still say that, but now I add that there are exceptions where I am wrong. Tim Wells comes to mind. But I don’t think he uses much for sights, if anything. There are amazing talents that can shatter expectations.
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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Lots of good advice on here already. You will have to find out what works for you. I shoot 3 under, I have split finger and just can’t get it to work for me. Some like to shoot the bow straight up and down, I like to can’t mine. I also don’t hold mine. When it gets to my anchor point it’s gone. For me it’s all one motion. Pick a spot, eyes on it, draw and release when my finger touches the corner of my mouth. Also work on your release, don’t let the string roll off your fingers. I like a hair tab, but there is a lot of different options out there. 50lbs is a lot to start with, but that’s at 28”. My guess is you’re about 45-46 pounds. Which is still a a lot to start with. To me I like to take a sheet of brown cardboard, no dots. Pick a spot and aim for that spot. Some people don’t shoot dots well.
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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I learned to shoot a bow as a kid. fiberglass recurve. No sights not even a nock clip on the string. i still cant shoot a compound. I shot right handed but I am left eye dominant. Cant sight down the arrow. Just point and shoot. At first I pinched the arrow with my thumb and pointer finger. Was tough. Uncle told me to use three fingers. one on top the nock two under. Worked lots better for for me. I suggest you pick one method and just keep shooting. Sights, instinct what ever works. Probably do better to choose mechanical or traditional and stick with it.
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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You need arrows that match the bow.
It’s called spine weight. 40/45....45/50 ...50/55 ...all I use is wooden arrows.
Don’t know a thing about metal arrows
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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Aside from all the correct info given here Are you holding and following thru with the shot or moving your bowhand to see where you hit Second would be the bow weight is heavier then your used to and your hand is moving off point of aim both results in good grouping but off point of aim
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Re: Traditional archery guys, this normal?
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Blak spot, what's in the coffee bag you're using for an arrow stop?, peatmoss? thanks Old coffee grinds! just kidding. I took the bag to Walmart where they keep the box for recycling plastic bags and stuffed it as full as I could get it, packed it in good. Then sewed it up
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