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Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud #7899767
07/05/23 09:35 AM
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This explains the most of how fraud spread throughout the United States that I have seen. Sure makes sense and it shows how easy it is done .


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/jay-valentine-holding-line-against-mail-ballot-fraud/


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Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: Kirk De] #7899782
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And more from same source. Presidential election decided by 17 counties?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/06/2024_how_to_outcompute_the_left.html

Still going in the wrong direction. Rather than running around putting out fires...........this evidence ought to be used to force an outright ban on vote by mail. None of these scams work when you have to show up in person to cast your vote.

Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: Kirk De] #7899790
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Hey Kirk! Was thinking about you a few days ago. Hope all is well and your staying cool in this Georgia summer.


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Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7899800
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Fraud will never end. Human beings enjoy it to much

Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: Kirk De] #7899805
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JMO, but all voting should be voter initiated. If you chose to cast a vote you must show up or submit in writing a request for a ballot. Never state or third party initiated.


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Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: Kirk De] #7899808
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If you guys are from one of those 6 swing states where the vote by mail fraud is running wild, it would be a good idea to step forward and say something. Would stop short of saying you owe it to the rest of us, but you are in a position to do something about it and we are not.

Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: warrior] #7899813
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Originally Posted by warrior
JMO, but all voting should be voter initiated. If you chose to cast a vote you must show up or submit in writing a request for a ballot. Never state or third party initiated.

And voter ID should be a must. I read that even Mexico requires voter ID.


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Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: warrior] #7899837
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Originally Posted by warrior
JMO, but all voting should be voter initiated. If you chose to cast a vote you must show up or submit in writing a request for a ballot. Never state or third party initiated.


Seems reasonable, until you read what that guy found. Won't go into all of it, but numerous examples of "requested" ballots, but not a real person requesting them. And election officials activating and then deactivating lists after ballots sent out. None of it possible if an actual live person has to show up to present an ID to vote. It has to go back to that.......and nothing else. Outright bad on vote by mail is the only way.

Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: Kirk De] #7899851
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Fraud is immoral and theft.
Theft is a sin,hope they burn in the everlasting fires of He--.
Especially the two faced pricks who practice it under the guise of being religious.


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Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: HayDay] #7899854
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Originally Posted by HayDay
If you guys are from one of those 6 swing states where the vote by mail fraud is running wild, it would be a good idea to step forward and say something. Would stop short of saying you owe it to the rest of us, but you are in a position to do something about it and we are not.


I don’t think there is anything prohibiting us from crossing state lines, so I wouldn’t say we are not. Just need enough of us on the same page and a healthy supply chain.


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Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: Kirk De] #7899865
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Here it is a good summary of what the guy found......in complete form.

https://www.americanthinker.com/author/jay_valentine/

Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: HayDay] #7899882
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Originally Posted by HayDay
Originally Posted by warrior
JMO, but all voting should be voter initiated. If you chose to cast a vote you must show up or submit in writing a request for a ballot. Never state or third party initiated.


Seems reasonable, until you read what that guy found. Won't go into all of it, but numerous examples of "requested" ballots, but not a real person requesting them. And election officials activating and then deactivating lists after ballots sent out. None of it possible if an actual live person has to show up to present an ID to vote. It has to go back to that.......and nothing else. Outright bad on vote by mail is the only way.


My full slate of reforms would also include a purge of the voter rolls after every election. Immediately after an election the roll gets wiped clean with only those who submitted a ballot in the the immediate prior election remaining. This would require maintaining a separate roll for each level of election municipal/county/state which would then be audited annually for cross match.

Voter ID and verification done every election.

Voter rolls would be considered confidential and not be made available to outside parties such as political parties or pollsters prior to elections. All ballots cast will be public record and made available for public review.

All non in person ballots must be requested by the voter in writing in the form of a sworn affidavit under penalty of perjury. With a very narrow list of approval that must be approved by election officials.

Non in person ballots may only be handled and submitted by the voter or his/her designated person as designated in their sworn affidavit and this person must also sign an affadavit. Narrow list of potential approved.

Any voter not on the rolls, didn't vote in a prior election, may submit a ballot but it will only count if they in fact were on the roll in a previous election.

No day of registration.

Early voting abolished.

Each polling place must seal and tally the vote at the polling place prior to a set deadline. All polling places must submit ballots for counting by a set deadline. No ballots accepted after that time.

Final vote tally will not start until all precincts have submitted their ballots.

Once started the count will be conducted in a sealed room open for public viewing and will not stop until all ballots are accounted for.

Any violation by any individual whether voter or official will result in loss of all voting rights for life and a ten year sentence of incarceration.


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Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: Kirk De] #7899883
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A lot of people , even on here , don't believe there is any fraud whatsoever ......lol


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Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: AntiGov] #7899886
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
A lot of people , even on here , don't believe there is any fraud whatsoever ......lol


I'm a realist. Two people in on a deal there is fraud involved somewhere.


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Re: Getting rid of fraud not just election fraud [Re: AntiGov] #7899893
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I went to the local courthouse last week. I saw a lady that’s a little older than me ask her to read the h alderman report. I told her I thought there was a lot of fraud in our election last year. She told me there wasn’t any fraud. I asked her to read the Halderman report. She said I’m not reading that there was no fraud in the election.
She wasn’t from the registrars office. But Another.
I went to the registrars office they were very nice. I asked them to read the Haldermans Report. I left it that way.


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