Re: monarch butterflies
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I have spotted a good number of Monarchs this summer. I have a fair amount of Common Milkweed on the place too, so I can usually find a caterpillar if I search the weeds for them. I have a bunch of big tall White pines around my house, and in years past we would get Monarchs roosting in the upper branches during late summer/early fall. They clump up in bushel basket sized groups. It is really neat to watch. They show up about a half hour before sundown
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Re: monarch butterflies
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Seen only one Monarch here in Wausau , Wi. ( North central Wi.)
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Re: monarch butterflies
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The problem is not the ones that reproduce here in the US. The Problem is the number of ones who are able to survive the massive amounts of pesticides Mexico allows to be used. That is what is killing them off. Not just Mexico ,Farmers here are really killing the environment to .
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Re: monarch butterflies
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The problem is not the ones that reproduce here in the US. The Problem is the number of ones who are able to survive the massive amounts of pesticides Mexico allows to be used. That is what is killing them off. The quarter across the road from me was sprayed three times for grass hoppers this year according to one of his hired men. The guy farming it farms 13,000 acres, so there is plenty of spray in the US too. He also sprays weeds and fungus. It is common to see him spray a field 6-8 times a year. X2
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Re: monarch butterflies
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Not to be harsh, but any insect which relies on a single genus of plant to thrive is as doomed as the dinosaurs.
Last edited by 52Carl; 09/02/22 10:17 PM. Reason: changed species to genus
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Re: monarch butterflies
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Just was out walking around the property........... Came across a small patch of milkweed so I looked through it. Found 3 Monarch caterpillars munching away. Are these things gonna pupate and hatch in time to make the migration ??? Seems awfully late, doesn't it ??
Wollen nicht krank dein feind. Planen es.
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Re: monarch butterflies
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It would be neat to see the migrating monarchs.
The endangered status of monarchs is based on uneducated public opinion and very bad science. The number of monarchs varies greatly from year to year. Studies estimate there is 80% less to 25% less monarchs than there was 80 years ago. One good year could easily set a new record for the number of monarchs. Their population numbers always wildly fluctuate like other insects do..
Keith Hi Keith, hope you and Diane are well. I would disagree. I seen what seemed like millions in my youth and they have never rebounded since then. Populations among species do fluctuate but nothing like with Monarchs. I think it's not only habitat but pesticides, herbicides to grow more crops.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: monarch butterflies
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Just was out walking around the property........... Came across a small patch of milkweed so I looked through it. Found 3 Monarch caterpillars munching away. Are these things gonna pupate and hatch in time to make the migration ??? Seems awfully late, doesn't it ?? I think they'll make it. They spend about 2 weeks from birth to cocoon and then 2 weeks from cocoon to butterfly and they're on their way.
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Re: monarch butterflies
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Just was out walking around the property........... Came across a small patch of milkweed so I looked through it. Found 3 Monarch caterpillars munching away. Are these things gonna pupate and hatch in time to make the migration ??? Seems awfully late, doesn't it ?? I think they'll make it. They spend about 2 weeks from birth to cocoon and then 2 weeks from cocoon to butterfly and they're on their way. Well................... The 2 week forecast for here is still showing 70's and 80's, so....... Hopefully they make the trip. Anybody know if it is typical for them to be going through the cycle this late in the summer ??
Wollen nicht krank dein feind. Planen es.
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Re: monarch butterflies
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Was very few come up here this spring because of last winter population crash, so even less going south. Shall be down to a farm in the middle of the prairie where maybe a 1000 overnight each night to scope it out.
52carl they feed on several species of milkweed not just one. OK. I will change my post to "single genus" of plant, but I still stand by my statement with all due respect, and with genuine sadness in their dire straits.
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