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Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7535422
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That act in the you tube video is to prevent a national gun registry. It does not prevent big brother from compiling a list of gun OWNERS.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7535427
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Big brother hears everything Alexis hears. wink


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Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7535430
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FWIW I suspect the thugs ignore the gun registry prohibition the same way they ignore warrant requirements to record ALL electronic communication. Remember the surprise when that secret info was leaked? Nothing has been done about it but it remains illegal.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Ghost guns [Re: danny clifton] #7535627
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
FWIW I suspect the thugs ignore the gun registry prohibition the same way they ignore warrant requirements to record ALL electronic communication. Remember the surprise when that secret info was leaked? Nothing has been done about it but it remains illegal.

So do we quit buying guns? The Video explain the law and procedures. I am glad that there was a Gun owners protection law, I am glad that they appear to be honoring it. The only thing that could help would be a total scrapping of NICS. Once you sell a gun the paper trail stops, buy a used gun , no paper trail.

Re: Ghost guns [Re: hippie] #7535633
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Im not going to hide anything. If you feel a need to hide firearms from our government its time to load them.


I wasn't figuring on hiding any, that was just to illustrate there was no difference between a registered gun and unregistered if push came to shove.

I learned in 1989 that they keep records on gun transactions. I bought a gun at a sale, got it home and found out the serial numbers were ground off. Not wanting a "Hot" gun, I had the police look at it and they x-rayed it and got them he number.

They told me it was sold new in Michigan, transferred in Texas but never reported stolen. Go figure out how they knew all that without a registry?

The LEO can request a trace, has to meet certain criteria, if granted, they can contact the Manufacture, they can tell what gun it was and what dealer it was delivered to, They can then contact that dealer and if the dealer is still in business, he must provide the transfer. End of trace.
I also doubt many on here have ever registered a gun.

Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7536349
03/23/22 12:27 PM
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My friend in Wyoming built ten or more of them, buy the 80% frame and finish it then install parts.
I have one complete and two to finish
Worse part about them is they are not supposed to leave the state the receiver is milled in, unless you put a registered serial number on it

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Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7541697
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they are a ghost gun though. what are they going to do to track were you had the receiver milled out in? i have one and am planning on getting a few more when i can even if its just the lowers and then build as i get money to. but the gun doesnt exist to the government so why would you have to worry about taking it into another state if theres really no proof on were it was milled in. i had a good friend of mine with a CNC mill mine out and it was done with nothing more than a hand shake.


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Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7541735
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I have a Mexican golf gun. It made a hole in Juan........


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Re: Ghost guns [Re: Gary Benson] #7541787
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I have a Mexican golf gun. It made a hole in Juan........

the buck shot version makes 9 holes finishes the round in one pull so you can hit the club house


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7541897
03/28/22 02:23 PM
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My theory is that by the time the gun grabbers would get to this neck of the woods, there won't be any left and if there are, they would have a change of heart and look for some other form of employment.

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Since the current folks in charge hand over all sorts of armaments to terrorist organizations like the Taliban, I don't think that it is in ones best interest to give them any of our guns. They jut can't be trusted with things like that. Its like giving a box of matches to a toddler and then leave the house.


Let's go Brandon

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Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7541948
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I'd like to build one some day.
Ain't gonna be soon.
Maybe not at all.
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Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7542644
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i doubt they will come out and take our guns at all. they probably will do 1 of a few things. stop selling them completly, stop selling certain critical parts for them due to "not being able to find the materials", or as we can kinda see now just jacking up the price of primers so nobody can afford to buy new shells or reload any of the shells they already have


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Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7542692
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Yep component prices suck right now if you can even get them. Having said that, i still manage to get in way more practice than any LEO or military person, even though i am doing less ow than I did in the past and won't go into my stock .

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Let's go Brandon

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Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7542767
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Powder is harder to find than primers. When cheap deer rifle ammo is a buck fifty a round its not good now.

Trump blazed a trail for the ATF to just reinterpret the law in order to make legal stuff illegal. It was a smart move to start with a useless toy like bumpstocks so the NRA crowd would not complain.

NSA is monitoring all electronic communication we find out. The whistle blowers prosecuted for violating national secrets. The tyrannists who classified the info that rights are being violated in the first place getting a pass. It has not stopped either.

All cell phones are required to send GPS location to big brother. To insure nobody has a phone that will not do this the method to transmit and receive has evolved from analog to digital to 5g whatever all that is. I think its to make sure that cell phone and GPS monitoring is current.

Then there are programs like cash for clunkers. Get rid of as many vehicles as possible that don't need computers and circuit boards and sensors to operate. Vehicles not equipped with GPS. Force people to pay for stuff they dont want. Ever wonder what a new vehicle would cost if you could just buy what you wanted?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7542789
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there is a really good argument to MAKE IT SO COMMON IT CAN'T BE TAKEN AWAY.

PSA and a few other companies helped bring affordable ARs to the masses

DItto on the pistol braces if you don't own one time to join the club they are quite affordable and a 9mm ar or 5.56 with a 10.5 inch barrel sure swings quick and carries easy

my son was just commenting that had the 1994-2004 Assault Weapons ban not happened the Mass production , cost reduction and popularization of the AR platform would likely have not happened.

the military contracts in the same time frame for millions of M4 rifles helped

people saw a window of opportunity and knew the anti gun folks were still pushing hard to take them.

so sell them to the masses

much like state after state decriminalized pot because they just couldn't put all those people in jail , there wasn't the space , it started to look like much larger than the kind of numbers they won and lost elections by.


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Re: Ghost guns [Re: coonman220] #7542820
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"Ghost guns" are about to be made illegal. If you have a homemade firearm the ATF says you need to tell them, get a NICS check, and apply for a unique serial number which you must engrave on the receiver.

I wonder if that standard will apply to guns manufactured before 1968 that do not have a serial number?

We are getting close to having firearm law so complicated it will be impossible to stay legal and own/carry a firearm. There are already several states in that category.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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