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#%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. #7396909
11/04/21 08:09 PM
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I took this video of guys picking and loading celery near Tacoma Washington today; 40's, wind, rain, and mud.
There is no way that Americans will do this kind of work anymore around here, probably nowhere in the USA.
If you posted this job for 40$ an hour you might get a couple of Americans to show up; but they would probably quit by noon.
We really need to make it easier for these guys from south of the border to get temporary work permits here. The present system of making them jump the border is a disaster. Both political parties have had the opportunity to fix this problem. I don't think they want to fix it; they want to hang on to the issue in order to rile-up their base.


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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7396914
11/04/21 08:12 PM
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Maybe we should quit paying Americans to sit around on there sorry rears everyday.

Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: BandB] #7396917
11/04/21 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BandB
Maybe we should quit paying Americans to sit around on there sorry rears everyday.




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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7396924
11/04/21 08:19 PM
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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7396932
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Backwards thinking there.
Cut the teat suckers off welfare and if they dont work at these or any other job they starve.
If Americans had to work in order to feed themselves and their families they would take those jobs-and a whole lot more less desireable jobs too.

Last edited by Boco; 11/04/21 08:22 PM.

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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7396933
11/04/21 08:22 PM
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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7396936
11/04/21 08:23 PM
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You could stop paying lazy deadbeat and fake disabled deadbeat Americans and fix the immigration system so that we have necessary labor. Simultaneously. It would be a great step in the right direction

Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: BandB] #7396938
11/04/21 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BandB
Maybe we should quit paying Americans to sit around on there sorry rears everyday.

Yeah right, that's the democrats voter base in the big cities that help win the electoral votes. Stopping their pay ain't happening.


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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7396948
11/04/21 08:28 PM
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People are being told they should be making a "living wage" no matter the job. Alot of jobs are a great learning experience for inexperienced, young, people. It helps them decide whether or not they want a job where they will come home dirty every day or if they would rather put some additional time in to learn a trade or profession. For the record, if I didn't need health insurance and job security, I'd be happy to give up my $15/hour job in MN to pick veggies in another state for that kind of money. Problem is, I ain't Mex and I am expected to pay for my own health care and groceries. Well, that, and I have a social security number that requires me to claim any and all income and pay taxes on it, or go to jail.


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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7396949
11/04/21 08:29 PM
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I totally agree that the we shouldn't pay people to sit around. Still would not fix the farmers needs.... because those type of folks are worthless on the farm.


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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7396961
11/04/21 08:39 PM
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I am for allowing anyone from any country to legally enter the US to work in the fields as long as they are productive.
As a young man, I worked side by side with green card holders from Mexico. I was impressed with their work ethic and good-natured attitude.
It was a good experience for me in that I got to see first hand how to get hard work done and be happy doing it.

Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: beaverpeeler] #7396966
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I totally agree that the we shouldn't pay people to sit around. Still would not fix the farmers needs.... because those type of folks are worthless on the farm.


I occasionally need help building fence, and a few other jobs, and I will hire some of our local illegals. Those boys are eager and know how to work. And my tools and equipment won't walk off. The unemployed white guys are either on drugs, drunks or just plain lazy.

If the Feds have a problem with it, they know where to find me.

Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7396969
11/04/21 08:45 PM
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Is it really that hard to get legal migrants? Farmer here in town needed help and couldn't find any so here imported 3 legal Mexicans. They worked from May until September and then went back home. They definitely did things no white person around here would do. They had a hard time finding people to work at the farm stand ringing up vegetables because "it's too hot" with a fan running on them as they sat on their butt. Meanwhile, the Mexicans were picking veggies in 100 degree heat and humidity without even any shade and carrying 40+ lb totes of veggies half a mile on their shoulders.


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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7397004
11/04/21 09:08 PM
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I have a hard time believing we can't find Americans to do work in this country. I spent years alongside folks just like me, working on steel roofs in 90-100 degree weather and other construction jobs at temperatures well below zero. I never made more than $20/hr unless it was O/T. Maybe y'all should advertise for help in Nebraska?


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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7397008
11/04/21 09:12 PM
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Trapperkeck....yes, it is hard to believe. Wish it were not so.


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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7397009
11/04/21 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Is it really that hard to get legal migrants? Farmer here in town needed help and couldn't find any so here imported 3 legal Mexicans. They worked from May until September and then went back home. They definitely did things no white person around here would do. They had a hard time finding people to work at the farm stand ringing up vegetables because "it's too hot" with a fan running on them as they sat on their butt. Meanwhile, the Mexicans were picking veggies in 100 degree heat and humidity without even any shade and carrying 40+ lb totes of veggies half a mile on their shoulders.


Thats a picnick,try working on the steel gang between the rails all summer at 130 + degrees spiking track.
Or spreading ties off a rackflat with a pickeroon,slipping and sliding on the creosote while the worktrain is rocking all day on the tie gang.
or running beside a ballast train all day for 7 or 8 miles opening the doors with a jimmy bar in one hand and pounding them with a track hammer in the other when they jam with rock.

And thats just summer.
40 below changing broken rail at night in the middle of nowhere using fusees for light in a blizzard is what really separates the men from the boys.

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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7397015
11/04/21 09:17 PM
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I'm just saying every illegal guy I've worked with or had work done by is pretty top notch. Hard working folk

Remember when I was doing construction work and our bricklayer sub contracter had a 10 person crew. Everyone except two Mexican where black. Them two out worked 8 people,never complained where always very nice when we had to help them or vice versa. They where there an hour before we came and still there a few after we left. Came back one day and it was only those two laying brick. Ask the subcontractor what happened and he said he fired the other 8 because it didn't make sense to pay them when these two put out 4x the work with a quarter of the problems.

Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7397031
11/04/21 09:29 PM
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If I was able to increase my wages by 800% and then return home to my impoverished country with my "riches" and live like a king, vegetable picking wouldn't be that hard.

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Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7397036
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All the same arguments that were used to justify slaves for centuries and when slavery was outlawed we had the industrial revolution which brought us into the modern age. Necessity breeds innovation, cheap labor hinders innovation.

Re: #%&@ immigrants taking all our jobs. [Re: waggler] #7397054
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There are programs in place for farmers to more readily get migrant labor. One local farmer participates as long as he can provide enough required hours for the laborers. When he can't, other locals usually have some odd jobs for the farmer to meet the requirement of hours for his migrant workers.


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