Re: A quote from Canada!
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05/14/20 09:31 PM
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La Loche, northern Saskatchewan wishes it could turn back the covid clock.
La Loche is a community of about 2800 mostly Dene people like many in North West Territories, Yukon and Alaska.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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As of April 30 La Loche 38 cases and 2 deaths. Can not find more recent info. with numbers but the worst outbreak in Saskatchewan. Remote community like most here in the north. Medical services are usually just local clinics with nurses and certainly no ICU's. Evacuation to larger centers with ICU's often logistically tough given transportation limitations. Price of living in remote places and the reason many consider it a good idea to keep CV19 out. Your chances with CV19 in remote places not so good as if you lived in the south. Throw in the crowded housing and your chances of getting it, if it gets to your community, are greater.
Walk in those shoes - I do. 2500 people here at the end of the road like La Loche. Nearest ICU about 250 miles south by air. About 80% Innu and crowded housing. People were terrified the virus would get here.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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As of April 30 La Loche 38 cases and 2 deaths. Can not find more recent info. with numbers but the worst outbreak in Saskatchewan. There's about 150 cases now in the area. La Loche is about 3 hrs north of me. I cannot travel to our cabin 1 hr north on this weekend to see my buds and spend day after day catching monster northern pike. I've been doing that every year for a long time. I am extremely disappointed but it is what it is.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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05/15/20 11:18 AM
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Thanks for the explanation. We don't live that way in this remote area.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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The Spanish Flu just about wiped out the Alaskan native villages.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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As of April 30 La Loche 38 cases and 2 deaths. Can not find more recent info. with numbers but the worst outbreak in Saskatchewan. There's about 150 cases now in the area. La Loche is about 3 hrs north of me. I cannot travel to our cabin 1 hr north on this weekend to see my buds and spend day after day catching monster northern pike. I've been doing that every year for a long time. I am extremely disappointed but it is what it is. Where are you at rvsask? We’re pretty bummed out we can’t be at our place in Buffalo Narrows this weekend.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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"“(The Spanish flu) epidemic, horrible as it was, occurred in the context of wave after wave of lethal diseases that decimated Alaska Natives,” Shana Loshbaugh, an independent scholar from Kenai who now lives in Fairbanks, said. “The only thing special about it was that, apparently, it was the last major scourge.” "
"Other diseases not previously endemic to Alaska were also making their way into the state. Cases of smallpox, influenza, measles, tuberculosis, whooping cough and other communicable diseases cropped up in villages in Alaska from the 1830s–1920. "
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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Where are you at rvsask? We’re pretty bummed out we can’t be at our place in Buffalo Narrows this weekend. NW of Meadow. Bummed I can't be at our place at Keeley.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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Where are you at rvsask? We’re pretty bummed out we can’t be at our place in Buffalo Narrows this weekend. NW of Meadow. Bummed I can't be at our place at Keeley. We’ll miss the good pike bite but hopefully be opened up in time to catch the real good walleye fishing.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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We’ll miss the good pike bite but hopefully be opened up in time to catch the real good walleye fishing. I hope to catch a good bite at Waterhen instead but it's not the same as sitting in front of your cabin, enjoying a fire and some beverages.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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05/15/20 01:09 PM
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Yeah that emergency order declaration sounds pretty consistent with emergency orders throughout North America and from what I've seen in international news, much of the free world. Sorry I don't have time to read it in it's entirety but couldn't seem to find the part about cops going door to door threatening to throw people in jail for 3 years. maybe it's on the French side, perhaps you could highlight it and post it again.
If you dont have time to read something maybe you should refrain from commenting on it?? I never said the police were going "door to door." Its never a good idea to twist what someone says to fit what you are trying to convey. What I actually said was that a good friend just came through a checkpoint a few days ago and he was told he had to quarantine for 14-days and that the police would be calling, and visiting his home every few days to ensure he was following orders. He was also told he would be fined and or jailed for up to 3-years if he didnt comply. Scare tactics?? Maybe, but as the article I posted lays out, fines and jail time are a possibility if you fail to comply.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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"“(The Spanish flu) epidemic, horrible as it was, occurred in the context of wave after wave of lethal diseases that decimated Alaska Natives,” Shana Loshbaugh, an independent scholar from Kenai who now lives in Fairbanks, said. “The only thing special about it was that, apparently, it was the last major scourge.” "
"Other diseases not previously endemic to Alaska were also making their way into the state. Cases of smallpox, influenza, measles, tuberculosis, whooping cough and other communicable diseases cropped up in villages in Alaska from the 1830s–1920. "
History is always more meaningful when you hear it from someone who was there to see it in person. Thanks a lot Dirt. In your previous post you said you were travelling around the US. Are you not in the extreme risk groop and a national treasure? Should you not be in isolation in an undisclosed location in the Arctic National Refuge someplace?
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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05/16/20 11:43 AM
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I'm under 60 and have no underlying medical conditions. What is my risk?
History is history, not myth. Maybe if people knew their history they would not be so fearful.
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Re: A quote from Canada!
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Yeah that emergency order declaration sounds pretty consistent with emergency orders throughout North America and from what I've seen in international news, much of the free world. Sorry I don't have time to read it in it's entirety but couldn't seem to find the part about cops going door to door threatening to throw people in jail for 3 years. maybe it's on the French side, perhaps you could highlight it and post it again.
If you dont have time to read something maybe you should refrain from commenting on it?? I never said the police were going "door to door." Its never a good idea to twist what someone says to fit what you are trying to convey. What I actually said was that a good friend just came through a checkpoint a few days ago and he was told he had to quarantine for 14-days and that the police would be calling, and visiting his home every few days to ensure he was following orders. He was also told he would be fined and or jailed for up to 3-years if he didnt comply. Scare tactics?? Maybe, but as the article I posted lays out, fines and jail time are a possibility if you fail to comply. What you said was irrelevant to my comment as well as other's. Mine and others were directed at the original poster's suggestion surrounding the reported draconic police actions for which you chose to take on and add insult and then justify by attaching the emergency order as if that somehow lent credibility to the notion of the police actions. If people weren't entitled to opinions internet forums would be pretty quiet.
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