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Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6633227
10/05/19 11:04 AM
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Oh yeah i know a bridger #3 will hold and so will a mj-600. More than anything is how its anchored, just amazing how some of the trappers around me use for there anchoring. Lets hook a high dollar trap to a gopher drag. I have been able to help some out .


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Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: beartooth trapr] #6633290
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Originally Posted by beartooth trapr
Oh yeah i know a bridger #3 will hold and so will a mj-600. More than anything is how its anchored, just amazing how some of the trappers around me use for there anchoring. Lets hook a high dollar trap to a gopher drag. I have been able to help some out .



Yep ^^^^^^^
On good drag and 10ft. Of chain brush ,,small trees make great shock springs lol.

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Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6633298
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Plenty of swivels help, too.

Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: red mt] #6633348
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Originally Posted by red mt
Every wolf I have caught has been in what people call a coyote / cat ,trap. But the trap 9 /times out 10 go in the truck for repairs later.
I think those heavy built traps just stand up better when you catch a wolf. And when you are getting 6 to 8 inches of snow every nite the jaw spread would be a help imo.
So I think Gary is saying he can see why 9s are used,,, not if you can catch one in a smaller trap.
Catching one in a smaller trap imo does not make you a better trapper. (EDIT )
As is the common belief anymore. It's about catching all of them that step in the pattern .



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Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6633475
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I got Alaskan # 9 traps this year that I'm hoping and up on a wolf. Have 20 bridger # 5s for wolfs and to be honest would hate to see what a wolf would do to them. I have caught mt.lions in them and off the pan and dog go . They are a good beaver trap.


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Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: beartooth trapr] #6633493
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Originally Posted by beartooth trapr
I got Alaskan # 9 traps this year that I'm hoping and up on a wolf. Have 20 bridger # 5s for wolfs and to be honest would hate to see what a wolf would do to them. I have caught mt.lions in them and off the pan and dog go . They are a good beaver trap.


Chad I think those 5s are great beaver trap.
Those 9s for deep snow I believe they getter done I personally have not used them .
Personally I think a 8 inch trap with very few moving parts be good trap here in my country.
I do know fwps use a lpc 7 ez longspring inside jaw spread I am unsure ???

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Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: red mt] #6633996
10/06/19 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by red mt
Originally Posted by beartooth trapr
I got Alaskan # 9 traps this year that I'm hoping and up on a wolf. Have 20 bridger # 5s for wolfs and to be honest would hate to see what a wolf would do to them. I have caught mt.lions in them and off the pan and dog go . They are a good beaver trap.


Chad I think those 5s are great beaver trap.
Those 9s for deep snow I believe they getter done I personally have not used them .
Personally I think a 8 inch trap with very few moving parts be good trap here in my country.
I do know fwps use a lpc 7 ez longspring inside jaw spread I am unsure ???



Ya'll need to check out Western Trapping Supplies. They're a trapping company in Australia and their traps are kind of based on Bridger's. They make a 5 like a Bridger that is DOGLESS!!

Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6634024
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Red the LPC #7 has a 6 7/8"jaw spread,for snow trapping I wouldn't want anything less than 6 7/8", for dirt trapping I would be fine with 6 3/8" or bigger.I've held 1 wolf in a MB 450,a few in MB 550,MB 650's,Bridger #3 full mod dogless,#5 Bridger Alaskan model,MB wolf 750,#4.5 Sleepy Creek LS and of course the Sterling MJ 600's.

Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6634043
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I believe they list the LPC 7 as 6 7/8",outside jaw spread.If memory serves,the one I have is 7 1/8",actual.Not sure about inside.

Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6634134
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Is their a difference in the preferred size from western to midwestern wolves? Reason I ask is aren't the western wolves larger than say the great lakes wolves?


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Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6634243
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Lpc 7 ez has rubber jaws on it also so inside is pretty tight ,,,
Rick in snow trapping not for me if I was targeting wolves.
Lpc 8 if I was going to use longsprings .
But as I have stated caught in cat sets or coyote sets held them just fine hard on trap I might add.
To me it's all about how you glue them down on holding part.
Drag on 10 ft of chain or longer on a good hook ,hook up in the brush is like shock absorbers. Trap has 3 swivels in the chain and it is the closest to the trap and one swivel at the hook. Works for me on my drags. I see no reason for mid chain swivels on drag chain imo.
By the time they get wrapped up in the brush trees rock the 3 swivels at the trap chain closest to the critter is what is working for what I have observed. But then again I do not target wolves,,,


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Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6634659
10/07/19 10:46 AM
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Good information,Red.I assume you weld J hooks?

Gary,yes,there is a size difference in the wolves but not sure what trap differences are preferred if any.

Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6634688
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Taxi ,,,,on the trap yes, drag yes I do weld.
But do not weld anything on disposable stakes,,,,I make my own jhooks out of 30d nails. Seems to hold .


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Re: WOLF VS COYOTE [Re: henpecked1] #6634693
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Thanks Red.

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