2 other threads on here, 5-6 posts on every trapping page on Facebook, it’s been talked about for 2 weeks now

i'm hopin this didn't push coonman over the edge and get him a vacation at the funny farm.

NAFA will sort things out in time, we saw a reorganization of Ontario Trappers Assn. a number of years ago that ended up just fine. Meanwhile, the Colorado Trappers Assn. sale has been reliably marketing a growing amount of wildfur (especially coyotes) for thirty six years now and CTA usually has a 100% sale of the goods, sometimes at better money than NAFA, and you get paid shortly thereafter. Colorado Trappers Assn. took over when Rocky Mountain Fur Exchange went belly up in the early eighties, so glitches in this industry happen every so often. NAFA may be headed toward a reorganization this year, but as we have all heard "what don't kill you makes you stronger". Why worry now?

Why worry? Good question! Not that I'm worried, but overall the more buyers/auctions competing for trappers fur should lead to better service and prices for trappers. Mink ranchers probably got more to worry about than trappers at this point. IMO

Facebook?.... don't do it, don't need the drama, or all their privacy security issues and especially the ooo ooo look at me mentality... I ask a simply question like did any bodies check come back bad? And I get blow back from people like you, like I'm an knuckle dragger? Plenty of folks are concerned and rightly so... In times like these fur markets constricting, regulation over burdening, volume waaaaay down, the vultures picking each other apart NAFA flanking FHA, FHA firing back... Groney there to pick up the scraps, Herman and Dave jumping ship and throwing a big party at the Aug sale, It's not good. We need to be united front, some sound experienced leadership, not some yoyos that can't figure out how to balance a check book. The anti's love this (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), maybe they paid NAFA off (very possible their war chest is massive) to throw us under the bus? I actually told a higher up at NAFA that real fur especially wild fur was doomed last year if things keep going like this.... I think he was hung over eyes all red and just scoffed. That's my piece, I guess if I never see my few furs and never get paid no biggy… I made my fur checks in the day thru them. I'm a member of both state and national, promote fur where I can and try to educate where I can and scold sloppy trappers when I see them. End of my soap box on this thread take for what it's worth or think I'm a nut? I got traps to prepare, coyote season starts soon, to all that love the outdoors best of harvest to you, see ya at the rendezvous, lord willing...

Lol people like me? I never said anything negative to you what so ever. Simply stated that it’s about the most popular topic being talked about in the trapping world right now, I’m sorry your just now hearing about it

Another excellent question. Because most trappers are bad businessmen, and they got you by the Cohones. They see us as suckers.

I haven't heard from coonman220 someone should do a welfare check on him...…..

Lawyer told me when a bounced check exceeds x amount, it is a Federal offence.
No idea of other states or international but I-yi-yie.

Maybe he got a farewell check?

I'm gonna have to quit trapping because of this. Too bad I spent all that money this fall at the rondys.

Coomnman220 Is ok

Dave tends to worry a little,not as much as he lets on though.

I don't deal with NAFA, so I'm not worried on that front. But broadly speaking this doesn't look good for anyone.

As far as waiting till mid October I could only assume It’s another “mailing time” for them, it’s when all the top lots are sent out and other reports or whatever

You referring to me?

Yup. He was talking about me. I take full responsibility for pointing out that SOME people are over reacting about the situation. Guess it doesn’t pay to post the truth.

Are they over reacting?

1) NAFA gets $10 million line of credit before last sale to cover expenses.

2) NAFA is now selling buildings in USA and consolidating into Canada.

3) NAFA bounces checks and decides to wait a month before reissuing the checks.

I’m starting to see a trend. I hope I’m wrong. NAFA was short of cash before the sale and needed the line to cover expenses. It is now selling assets. Why? Either for cash, to consolidate in Canada or both. The check bouncing may be a coincidence but NAFA isn’t rushing out to repay the checks that bounced. They know who they are and have a list of the bounced checks from the bank. They could rerun the list and mail replacement checks quickly, if they have the funds to cover the checks.

Are you quite sure #2 is happening?

Just because Beav posted it doesn’t make it true. I haven’t seen or heard anything official from NAFA about this.

Seems to me that folks like you are part of the problem. Posting things that you don’t know for a fact are 100% true.

Really? My check didn’t bounce so I can’t discus it? I didn’t see the loan paperwork either.

I’m a commercial banker with a degree in economics, MBA in Finance. I know a lot more about this topic than most. Anyone of these items by itself and I would shrug my shoulders. However, when you combine them, a negative trend is starting to emerge and we haven’t even discussed the industry issues due to lower prices and shrinking markets.

I hope I’m wrong for the health of the fur industry because it needs as many viable markets as possible.