I'm speaking from experience but thanks for pretending you know me.

As a last resort those methods are better than doing nothing.

I've handled Pitts and have seen a couple dog fights up close.These dogs are savage when attacking.I'll stick with something that breaks whatever it hits,the spine is also a much bigger target.Thats if I'm unable to use a gun.

I don't believe he was addressing you .

Thank you Aaron. And no Hobbie I wasnt responding to you and my apology for not being clearer about it.

Swampfox, the owner wasn't home and they dug out under a yard fence.

That is funny, I have seen that before.

I'm somewhat surprised some of the southern boys here haven't chimes in about rolln dogs and how antis are against it.

If that was my 8 yr old daughter and the punk wasnt 100% apologetic AFTER i killed his mutt , i think i would have to give him a pounding .

This ain't the NFL.

Southern boy here...I discuss with all landowners about “incidentals” and tell them straight up if it has a collar it gets a pass. If I have to fight it it doesn’t get a pass. Have yet to catch anything collared. The only nice dog was a Lab and I talked to it the entire time. It even got up and gave me a thankful rub on the leg before leaving. Unfortunately most are uncollared, skin and bones, and have some sort of pit in them. I think I’d rather run into a pack of coyotes than these incidentals. Some will take a choke stick from you and I’ve got a stout choke stick. It’s not something I enjoy, but in these instances it’s what needs to be done. These packs don’t run in the middle of the night on 2700ac just for fun, they are out for food. I don’t get mad at the incidentals, I get mad at the owners who either allow this to happen or for dropping them off in the middle of nowhere and think they’ll just blend right in with nature. And when I say packs, it generally consist of an Alpha male and female and maybe one younger female and the rest are all males. Most packs consist of 6-8. Yes, they are a bad problem.

If the truth is not allowed, just delete. Not wanting to cause an issue.

I'm kinda confused by the verbage here.

It's all good. I was too quick to jump on "those methods." My apologies.

You're a good man, Hobbie.

I'm picking up what your puttin down .

This logic probably works very well with 99% of dogs, but not pits. I've seen them still hold tight with there eye poked completely out and bowels hanging from their belly. I think the more the animal fights, the more they like it.

Also, other dogs such as dalmatians, chows, dobermans, curs, leopards, terriers, what have you that are known for biting don't bite like pits. Pits can be quick as a cat and I think it is engraved in there DNA to go for the head/face/throat area; even if they have to jump high to get there. I have only seen one pit in my life that caught on the leg, and he got dealt with accordingly. All the rest all did it very naturally and never had to be trained as to where on the body to catch.

I can't imagine being grabbed by the throat or face by one of those dogs. No way I would ever be able to fight back. I would be down within seconds and dead within minutes.

Those other dogs might give you a butt cut or a sore ankle even if it takes you several minutes to fight them off, but not a pit. Even if one is lucky enough to survive an attack to the upper body area, I imagine it would require a lot of plastic and corrective surgery; as well as, months if not years of rehabilitation. They are a tool with a very specific job set that has a mind of its own, not a pet.

^^^ Precisely .

I've been nipped by a yellow dog ( my friend's name for Black mouth curs ) during a catch melee. Nothing dedicated , just an excited dog trying to get back in the mix. But never a catch dog. You can tell cause I'm typing this.

You guys ever wonder why MOST ( cause you always have that exception ) sporting dog breeds aren't people aggressive ? It's been bred out of them . Think about it. You own a large game bird area with a very high paying clientele . They like to come there with THEIR high paying clientele. How well do you think that'd go with releasing a brace of very surly dogs running around ? So, that aspect was bred out of them . They're bred to work with and in close proximity to people .

Most hounds ( again , occasionally , you'll find a hard case . But , generally, it's the exception.) are so prey driven that they're kind of apathetic towards people. They wanna chase and live for the chase . How many of us have seen a good trail hound just kinda go " whatever" shortly after they've gotten to mouth down on game after a chase ? Granted , I've seen young hounds fight over a carcass . But It's short lived. They're ready to get on after the next one.

But pits . They're bred to catch, hold, and maybe kill. That's fine on a powerfully built pig. Works perfect. As long as that's where their energy is focused. That same energy focused on a human child has ghastly results. Full grown person for that matter. We humans tear easily. Further , as evidenced by Danny's granddaughter 's pony , unchecked, they'll go looking for a target.

One breed i haven't quite figured out is the Great Pyrenees. They definitely assume ownership of their animals , people , and property but I haven't observed one out roaming for trouble. And they can be very intimidating if you're an interloper. But they ( again, just from the ones I've seen ) seem to send a lot of signals that you're trespassing and not welcome to come any further and back off once they know you've gotten the message. Fascinating dogs.

Incidentally, I don't see Great Pyrenees on the lists of dog attacks. Seems they're effective at conveying their message.