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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410987
12/28/18 12:07 AM
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Son in law works for IRS, he's not working

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410992
12/28/18 12:17 AM
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I still have to work, just don't get paid again till the nuts in DC quit squabbling and pass a budget. About the ONLY thing of importance congress does or needs to do and can't even do that! Tell me again why we keep electing and paying them?


Not my circus, not my clowns.
Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410994
12/28/18 12:21 AM
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Rat i dont believe there has ever been a ahut down without back pay being given.

Warrior so your work had a full crew on Christmas and 24 7 all year. Lots of things not being done that affect things in the long term but not felt for awhile. Think cities tags no biggie now but if it the work doesn't get done then no bobcat trapping next year.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: AntiGov] #6410996
12/28/18 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
I thought ( other than vaca ) getting paid for not working was called welfare.

Pretty crappy vacation.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6411001
12/28/18 12:29 AM
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Here is the rub.

Essential federal employees must show up for work, but won't be paid until shutdown is over.

Non-essential federal employees are on what amounts to "paid vacation" until the shutdown is over.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6411003
12/28/18 12:37 AM
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Know what would take care of this quickly?

Lock all members of Congress and the President in their chambers/office until they get their jobs done that the taxer payers and sending them there to do.


These shut downs are just as embarrassing as when WI Dems fled to IL in 2010 because they didn't want to do their jobs.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6411007
12/28/18 12:42 AM
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Our government is so dysfunctional it borders on the insane, term limits would fix some of this.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Rat Masterson] #6411012
12/28/18 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Our government is so dysfunctional it borders on the insane, term limits would fix some of this.

The individual political parties could impose that on themselves like the Whig party did. The fact that they don't speaks volumes.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6411017
12/28/18 01:15 AM
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JMO, but non essential means deadwood here in the private sector and here in the private sector I can't tell what we're missing with the shutdown. Maybe we ought to consider making it a regular thing.


Yeah, I figured this would pop up, surprised it didn't come up sooner. I think the term "essential" probably should be replaced with "emergency/immediate need/safety" or some other term. Ok, let's follow Warrior's "dead wood" analogy and see what will happen if all the dead wood simply disappeared overnight.

No one to process AntiGov's SS claim when he decides to finally take it
No one to process Warrior's Medicare claims- I think that's mostly contracted out but fed contractors don't get paid in a shutdown either
No federal research of any kind (whether that's being done in house or selecting awardees of grants)- health, wildlife/fisheries, environment, earth sciences, etc
No one to operate or maintain national parks/monuments/historic sites/battlefields etc of any kind
No one to operate or maintain national wildlife refugees, national forests, national grasslands, etc
No one to operate/approve grazing or mineral leases on federal land
No one to determine & approve timber harvesting off of federal land (if they do much of that anymore)
No one to approve off-shore hydrocarbon extraction in national waters
No one to set inter-state hunting seasons, such as with waterfowl
No one to administer various agricultural and rural programs in all the counties of the U.S.
No one to process/issue U.S. passports (want to go to Canada on a hunting trip and don't have a passport already, tough ti**y)
No one to propose specs for new weapon systems for the military (not sure on that one--may be "essential")
No one to issue your mail-order bride a visa to come to the U.S.
etc, etc,, etc

But, hey, who's counting...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: NonPCfed] #6411024
12/28/18 01:31 AM
12/28/18 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
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JMO, but non essential means deadwood here in the private sector and here in the private sector I can't tell what we're missing with the shutdown. Maybe we ought to consider making it a regular thing.


Yeah, I figured this would pop up, surprised it didn't come up sooner. I think the term "essential" probably should be replaced with "emergency/immediate need/safety" or some other term. Ok, let's follow Warrior's "dead wood" analogy and see what will happen if all the dead wood simply disappeared overnight.

No one to process AntiGov's SS claim when he decides to finally take it delete social insecurity
No one to process Warrior's Medicare claims- I think that's mostly contracted out but fed contractors don't get paid in a shutdown either delete
No federal research of any kind (whether that's being done in house or selecting awardees of grants)- health, wildlife/fisheries, environment, earth sciences, etc delete and turn over to the states/private sector
No one to operate or maintain national parks/monuments/historic sites/battlefields etc of any kind return to states
No one to operate or maintain national wildlife refugees, national forests, national grasslands, etcreturn to states
No one to operate/approve grazing or mineral leases on federal land return to states
No one to determine & approve timber harvesting off of federal land (if they do much of that anymore) return to states
No one to approve off-shore hydrocarbon extraction in national waters return to states when in state waters
No one to set inter-state hunting seasons, such as with waterfowl return to a committee of states
No one to administer various agricultural and rural programs in all the counties of the U.S.delete
No one to process/issue U.S. passports (want to go to Canada on a hunting trip and don't have a passport already, tough ti**y) state issued passports
No one to propose specs for new weapon systems for the military (not sure on that one--may be "essential") remains federal as per the Constitution/the citizenry retains the same ability as per the Constitution
No one to issue your mail-order bride a visa to come to the U.S.
etc, etc,, etc BUILD THE DAM WALL

But, hey, who's counting...




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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6411025
12/28/18 01:40 AM
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Don't forget there would be no one to insure safe food medicine or water quality. But thats all good too

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6411026
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Sure, Warrior, no problem. Enjoy your fantasies.

BTW- You're not taking any SS or Medicare when you're eligible...?


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: NonPCfed] #6411029
12/28/18 01:43 AM
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Don't plan on it.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: nvwrangler] #6411030
12/28/18 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
Don't forget there would be no one to insure safe food medicine or water quality. But thats all good too


We survived for a century and and half without "govt help". Food was cheap and water was free, imagine that.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: NonPCfed] #6411032
12/28/18 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
Sure, Warrior, no problem. Enjoy your fantasies.

BTW- You're not taking any SS or Medicare when you're eligible...?



He only hunts fishes and traps private ground too.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6411033
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Don't plan on it.


You are a true stud. Don't need anyone but yourself and your state gov peeps. Carry on.


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: nvwrangler] #6411034
12/28/18 01:53 AM
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Yes, I do.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6411036
12/28/18 01:58 AM
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Let us get a dose of reality, in non essentials take America back from the nanny state to a period around 1900 and before, and the nation and people survived. In the last shutdown 9% of IRS employees still showed up for work What a novel idea in government employees actually still can show up for their jobs, just like the 450,000 who will be required to appear for work, but not be paid until later.
As the IRS seems to be able to suck it up and not go fetal in around 10,000 dedicated public servants still working, then the reality is there appears to not be any statute which forbids public servants from still performing their jobs. That reality is never made a point of, as that would mean those who want to keep spending money and buying votes, would lose all of their leverage and the victim card would be lost.
Agencies are counseled to consult legal counsel and employees Human Resources on these issues.

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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: warrior] #6411045
12/28/18 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by nvwrangler
Don't forget there would be no one to insure safe food medicine or water quality. But thats all good too


We survived for a century and and half without "govt help". Food was cheap and water was free, imagine that.


*****How dare you imply people can get along without the government.*****


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6411048
12/28/18 04:02 AM
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All I need to do is look at a work crew from the local governments to see that I do 3x the work as any one member of that crew, for the most part as there are exceptions to everything. I would imagine the # of not needed at all federal workers is huge. I am currently doing a large remodel project for a woman who was very high up in the state human resource dept. She cannot make and stick to a decision to save her life, absolutely no common sense at all to boot. That she was so high up in human resource admin while working for the state is hard to believe...I am sure lots of sub par workers are on the government payrolls. Imagine how many agencies and departments we could all live without.

The term 'non essential' worker is something to consider in itself when you think about the national debt and the fact that none of it is being/has been/is planned to be.... paid off.


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