Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: Muskrat Love]
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I still have to work, just don't get paid again till the nuts in DC quit squabbling and pass a budget. About the ONLY thing of importance congress does or needs to do and can't even do that! Tell me again why we keep electing and paying them?
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: AntiGov]
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12/28/18 12:25 AM
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I thought ( other than vaca ) getting paid for not working was called welfare. Pretty crappy vacation.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: Rat Masterson]
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12/28/18 01:08 AM
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Our government is so dysfunctional it borders on the insane, term limits would fix some of this. The individual political parties could impose that on themselves like the Whig party did. The fact that they don't speaks volumes.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: Muskrat Love]
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12/28/18 01:15 AM
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JMO, but non essential means deadwood here in the private sector and here in the private sector I can't tell what we're missing with the shutdown. Maybe we ought to consider making it a regular thing. Yeah, I figured this would pop up, surprised it didn't come up sooner. I think the term "essential" probably should be replaced with "emergency/immediate need/safety" or some other term. Ok, let's follow Warrior's "dead wood" analogy and see what will happen if all the dead wood simply disappeared overnight. No one to process AntiGov's SS claim when he decides to finally take it No one to process Warrior's Medicare claims- I think that's mostly contracted out but fed contractors don't get paid in a shutdown either No federal research of any kind (whether that's being done in house or selecting awardees of grants)- health, wildlife/fisheries, environment, earth sciences, etc No one to operate or maintain national parks/monuments/historic sites/battlefields etc of any kind No one to operate or maintain national wildlife refugees, national forests, national grasslands, etc No one to operate/approve grazing or mineral leases on federal land No one to determine & approve timber harvesting off of federal land (if they do much of that anymore) No one to approve off-shore hydrocarbon extraction in national waters No one to set inter-state hunting seasons, such as with waterfowl No one to administer various agricultural and rural programs in all the counties of the U.S. No one to process/issue U.S. passports (want to go to Canada on a hunting trip and don't have a passport already, tough ti**y) No one to propose specs for new weapon systems for the military (not sure on that one--may be "essential") No one to issue your mail-order bride a visa to come to the U.S. etc, etc,, etc But, hey, who's counting...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: NonPCfed]
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12/28/18 01:31 AM
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JMO, but non essential means deadwood here in the private sector and here in the private sector I can't tell what we're missing with the shutdown. Maybe we ought to consider making it a regular thing. Yeah, I figured this would pop up, surprised it didn't come up sooner. I think the term "essential" probably should be replaced with "emergency/immediate need/safety" or some other term. Ok, let's follow Warrior's "dead wood" analogy and see what will happen if all the dead wood simply disappeared overnight. No one to process AntiGov's SS claim when he decides to finally take it delete social insecurity No one to process Warrior's Medicare claims- I think that's mostly contracted out but fed contractors don't get paid in a shutdown either deleteNo federal research of any kind (whether that's being done in house or selecting awardees of grants)- health, wildlife/fisheries, environment, earth sciences, etc delete and turn over to the states/private sector No one to operate or maintain national parks/monuments/historic sites/battlefields etc of any kind return to states No one to operate or maintain national wildlife refugees, national forests, national grasslands, etc return to statesNo one to operate/approve grazing or mineral leases on federal land return to states No one to determine & approve timber harvesting off of federal land (if they do much of that anymore) return to states No one to approve off-shore hydrocarbon extraction in national waters return to states when in state waters No one to set inter-state hunting seasons, such as with waterfowl return to a committee of states No one to administer various agricultural and rural programs in all the counties of the U.S. delete No one to process/issue U.S. passports (want to go to Canada on a hunting trip and don't have a passport already, tough ti**y) state issued passports No one to propose specs for new weapon systems for the military (not sure on that one--may be "essential") remains federal as per the Constitution/the citizenry retains the same ability as per the Constitution No one to issue your mail-order bride a visa to come to the U.S. etc, etc,, etc BUILD THE DAM WALLBut, hey, who's counting... Fixed it for ya
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: Muskrat Love]
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12/28/18 01:41 AM
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Sure, Warrior, no problem. Enjoy your fantasies.
BTW- You're not taking any SS or Medicare when you're eligible...?
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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12/28/18 01:45 AM
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Don't forget there would be no one to insure safe food medicine or water quality. But thats all good too We survived for a century and and half without "govt help". Food was cheap and water was free, imagine that.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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12/28/18 01:46 AM
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Sure, Warrior, no problem. Enjoy your fantasies.
BTW- You're not taking any SS or Medicare when you're eligible...? He only hunts fishes and traps private ground too.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: Muskrat Love]
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You are a true stud. Don't need anyone but yourself and your state gov peeps. Carry on.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: Muskrat Love]
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12/28/18 01:58 AM
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Let us get a dose of reality, in non essentials take America back from the nanny state to a period around 1900 and before, and the nation and people survived. In the last shutdown 9% of IRS employees still showed up for work What a novel idea in government employees actually still can show up for their jobs, just like the 450,000 who will be required to appear for work, but not be paid until later. As the IRS seems to be able to suck it up and not go fetal in around 10,000 dedicated public servants still working, then the reality is there appears to not be any statute which forbids public servants from still performing their jobs. That reality is never made a point of, as that would mean those who want to keep spending money and buying votes, would lose all of their leverage and the victim card would be lost. Agencies are counseled to consult legal counsel and employees Human Resources on these issues. OPM
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: warrior]
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12/28/18 03:45 AM
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Don't forget there would be no one to insure safe food medicine or water quality. But thats all good too We survived for a century and and half without "govt help". Food was cheap and water was free, imagine that. *****How dare you imply people can get along without the government.*****
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
[Re: Muskrat Love]
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12/28/18 04:02 AM
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All I need to do is look at a work crew from the local governments to see that I do 3x the work as any one member of that crew, for the most part as there are exceptions to everything. I would imagine the # of not needed at all federal workers is huge. I am currently doing a large remodel project for a woman who was very high up in the state human resource dept. She cannot make and stick to a decision to save her life, absolutely no common sense at all to boot. That she was so high up in human resource admin while working for the state is hard to believe...I am sure lots of sub par workers are on the government payrolls. Imagine how many agencies and departments we could all live without.
The term 'non essential' worker is something to consider in itself when you think about the national debt and the fact that none of it is being/has been/is planned to be.... paid off.
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