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Any Federal Workers Out There? #6410731
12/27/18 08:09 PM
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Just wanting to see if any out in Trapperman Land are Federal workers.

We are still getting our mail, and I'm hoping it continues to be delivered throughout this shutdown. I'm assuming that those still working will receive their pay for the shutdown period, when it's over.

When you furloughed, is it like you're laid off? No pay as long as you're not working.

I would like only federal workers or their spouses to answer, not those who think they know the answer.
Thinking of giving the mail,lady something for the New Year!


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410741
12/27/18 08:20 PM
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No pay during furlough but in the past I have always received back pay. No guarantee. I work for USDA.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410742
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I worked for the federal government for 30 years in the FAA branch. In a furlough situation you take turns being off work. In other words if there are six employees in your group three would be furloughed the first day while the other three would report for work and NOT BE PAID until the shutdown is over. The next day the other three employees would be off on furlough and the first three that were furloughed would be at work and NOT BE PAID until the shutdown is over.

It is very disruptive to the work schedule and pay status. There is no seniority when it comes to furlough. Everyone must take their turn. If you live pay to pay it can be devastating.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410762
12/27/18 08:39 PM
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We should be paid for this last pp because all (for most of us) of those hours occurred before the shut down. The Prez's new chief-of-staff and current OPM head said so last Sunday but perhaps he wasn't briefed properly. The hours that would have started this past Sunday are in the holding "pattern" and won't be paid until probably a later date (almost always paid retroactive). The longest one I've been through was in October 2013 that went a couple of weeks but there during the first or second Clinton term that went about a month. People I work with said that, "got old"...

I work with a lot of contractors. Their fate is less certain than ours. I was in the office on Dec 21 until almost 7 pm getting a journal article review done that was due by Jan 3. I didn't want the authors or the journal editors (none of them federal employees) left hanging by my inability to touch my keyboard until things are resolved. A lot of people take vacation between Christmas and New Years, so that, and an ongoing blizzard, make it seem less real as of now. The reality will sink more starting Jan 2.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410792
12/27/18 08:59 PM
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Like has been said we should get 1 more check that was from before the shut down . Then its a holding pattern. No work or pay and if you choose to apply for unemployment and back pay is authorized you have to pay it back. Im not quite pay check to pay check but an extended shut down will hurt. Worst part is i dont have the extra cash to really hit the trapping right now. Should have some next week tho. Id rather they settle this now then keep pushing it off to go through this every couple weeks meaning running out of funding and having the unknown.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410804
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Id rather they settle this now then keep pushing it off to go through this every couple weeks meaning running out of funding and having the unknown.


Yep, continuing CRs suck. We can't start any new work when we're on those. Up through the Carter administration, fed fiscal year started July 1 but then they pushed it back until Oct 1 because Congress and the President couldn't get the budget process done by July 1. Now they can't get it done by Oct 1. I've been on the "white badge" side of things for a decade and we've never had a finalized budget by Oct 1. The new fiscal year always starts with a CR.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410813
12/27/18 09:22 PM
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I work for the A.
Shutdowns don’t impact us. Keep open and pay as usual.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410845
12/27/18 09:43 PM
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I’ve been through several shutdowns since 1985.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410865
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Seems like nothing shuts down,everyone gets paid maybe late but gets paid for a vacation whats the use. If its shut down no one works, no one gets paid the public govt. employee or citizen will complain maybe something would get done. Empty Threat

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: danvee] #6410878
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There are several federal employees and I thank those on this forum for letting us know your status and how your particular agencies or divisions work with and through these shut downs. Also we should remember that the federal civilian workforce does not make or set the rules of payment etc. Shutting down government is basically all about politics instead of working to run a more efficient and effective government.

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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410881
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I thought ( other than vaca ) getting paid for not working was called welfare.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410901
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Well then, it's an unplanned and very stressful and disruptive vacation, cause it sure ain't welfare.

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Originally Posted by AntiGov
I thought ( other than vaca ) getting paid for not working was called welfare.

Boy you sure seem to have an answer for everything.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410910
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Originally Posted by Muskrat Love
Just wanting to see if any out in Trapperman Land are Federal workers.

We are still getting our mail, and I'm hoping it continues to be delivered throughout this shutdown. I'm assuming that those still working will receive their pay for the shutdown period, when it's over.

When you furloughed, is it like you're laid off? No pay as long as you're not working.

I would like only federal workers or their spouses to answer, not those who think they know the answer.
Thinking of giving the mail,lady something for the New Year!



The Postal Service is not affected by the shutdown.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410933
12/27/18 11:07 PM
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Cant you just say screw it,if they aint paying you and go trapping or pump gas or flip burgers until they decide to pay you again?Surely they don't expect you to show up and work for no pay,or the promise of "work now and we'll pay you later,but we don't know when"?Can you apply for employment insurance benefits?

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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410949
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Boco depends onnyour classification., excepted employes have to work. Law inforcement emergancy services thosectype folks. Where i work its the lead wrangler and lead maintenance guys have to work to ensure the health of the animals at the facility. I could get a side job or trap as for unemployment one can apply you can get it but if congress approves back pay then you have to pay it all back.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410954
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Surely they don't expect you to show up and work for no pay,or the promise of "work now and we'll pay you later,but we don't know when"?

Yep Boco, that is exactly what they expect, some employees are still working, but will not get paid until the the folks at the payroll office go back to work.

Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410958
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DoD is unaffected by this partial shutdown. I'll be at work tomorrow.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410985
12/28/18 12:03 AM
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Don't know if my DoD gs-12 (?) brother is sitting at home on this one but he tells me the last few nobama ones he got back pay for his time off. He's non essential in more ways than one. This brother took five years to get his required two years experience to sit for his PE exam (civil engineer) because he kept getting fired. He's been a government employee now for ten years, imagine that.

JMO, but non essential means deadwood here in the private sector and here in the private sector I can't tell what we're missing with the shutdown. Maybe we ought to consider making it a regular thing.


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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There? [Re: Muskrat Love] #6410986
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In recent history has there ever been a shut down where people didn't get paid?

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