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Loss of support #6220860
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Can anybody give me a well-thought explanation as to why just because a business does not support one's political beliefs that they stop patronizing it? I understand some businesses not supporting our Constitutional rights because those are fundamental and a pretty big deal.

My concern is when say a little ma and pop store or say a clothing company lets it slip that they endorse the Democratic party, or maybe somebody finds out an owner or CEO had an abortion. Maybe they are anti-hunting or support homosexuals. Why should the business suffer just because of the political alignment?

I honestly could not care less about the political standpoint of a company if they make a quality product that serves the intended purpose. Make great boots that are bulletproof but the CEO funded Hillary Clinton. Who cares? Ma and Pa General Store makes great sandwiches for your lunch and are always friendly but you found out recently they do not support trappers? Who cares?

I get that in a very roundabout way you are "funding against yourself" by purchasing from them but a business needs to cover overhead and several other expenses before they can start to pay for a Democrat's campaign or PETA's crusade against hunters. Honestly, the amount of money you are refusing to spend probably pale in comparison anyway to what makes a measurable difference. If a product is worthwhile and brings me 100% satisfaction then why should I deprive myself of it and them of the money just to find an inferior product for the sake of proving a point or the principle of it?

I'm Conservative and bleed red white and blue like most of you on here but I think people have started to go too far lately in proving their political allegiance.

Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6220869
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Starvation is a great impetus for a change in political philosophy. I do not knowingly do willing transactions with anti-freedom people, if you do that's great, too. It takes all kinds to make the world go round.

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Starving someone to make them think like you is in-democratic.It is what the antis try to do to trappers.They don't like how we think so they want to force us to change to think like them.

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Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6220878
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I really don't care about an individual's position but if a company makes a political statement then I hold them accountable, pro or con. Make your product, sell it, I'll buy it. Make a statement unrelated to your product then I will consider that statement in my buying decision since you have made it a part of the equation.

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Starvation is a great impetus for a change in political philosophy. I do not knowingly do willing transactions with anti-freedom people, if you do that's great, too. It takes all kinds to make the world go round.


Anti-freedom people? They could and do say the same thing about why they are pro-abortion. They want the freedom for the woman to do what she wants with her body but Conservatives are trying to restrict that freedom. Just an idea, not an argument.

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Some people are so narrow minded that they would starve themselves by boycotting every business that didn't reflect their views.


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Re: Loss of support [Re: corky] #6220882
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Originally Posted By: corky
I really don't care about an individual's position but if a company makes a political statement then I hold then accountable, pro or con. Make your product, sell it, I'll buy it. Make a statement unrelated to your product then I will consider that statement in my buying decision since you have made it a part of the equation.


I do agree with this

Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6220885
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i refuse to support my enemies.if a like minded person doesn't have it,i don't need it.a lot of people would rather turn a blind eye to make life easier.the easy way will kill both sides eventually though.









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Yes, anti-freedom people. It is up to me to decide what anti-freedom means, and I use my own judgement on where and with whom to transact with. Basic common sense, really.

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I agree 100% with your thinking
This is America and we all have different opinions
That's what makes us the GREATEST country


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I'm with Corky. Just do your business and I will do my business with you. Take a stand supporting interests that conflict with my interests and I am unlikely to support your ability to do so. It takes extra money for a business to support political interests that conflict with my interests, and none of that money will come from me if I consider the issue important.

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I swore an oath to the constitution. If you support my enumerated rights, I am ok with you. If you publicly oppose my enumerated rights, I'm not OK with you. If you keep your mouth shut, I will go the best deal for me on whatever you are selling.


I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. O Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
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Hey Boco, newsflash the United States is not a democracy. It's a representative republic.


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Originally Posted By: corky
I really don't care about an individual's position but if a company makes a political statement then I hold them accountable, pro or con. Make your product, sell it, I'll buy it. Make a statement unrelated to your product then I will consider that statement in my buying decision since you have made it a part of the equation.



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Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6220992
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You'd be an absolute fool to knowingly give somebody ammunition that could be used against you.


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Originally Posted By: goldy
You'd be an absolute fool to knowingly give somebody ammunition that could be used against you.


I just don't think we need to go so far as to divide ourselves further all because somebody does something you don't agree with. I do agree that if a company is openly throwing their political agenda around then there is an issue. If the company does a couple things and are Democratic by nature or conservative by nature but don't throw their agenda around then I believe it should not matter. My job pays me to work and do my job, what I do with my money is my business and they can't stop paying me because they don't agree with my political views. I know that analogy is different than voluntarily purchasing good or services, but it's just for illustration purposes.

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Put whatever spin on it you want,you"er a democracy since you have democratic elections.


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Originally Posted By: SleekOtter
Originally Posted By: goldy
You'd be an absolute fool to knowingly give somebody ammunition that could be used against you.


I just don't think we need to go so far as to divide ourselves further all because somebody does something you don't agree with. I do agree that if a company is openly throwing their political agenda around then there is an issue. If the company does a couple things and are Democratic by nature or conservative by nature but don't throw their agenda around then I believe it should not matter. My job pays me to work and do my job, what I do with my money is my business and they can't stop paying me because they don't agree with my political views. I know that analogy is different than voluntarily purchasing good or services, but it's just for illustration purposes.
This world isn't what it used to be, and it will never be the same. The good old days are no more. Gone are the days where everybody just wants to get along in the U.S.. That's about as simple as I can put it. But if you believe in the bible, and it's prophecies, it shouldn't surprise you. It sure doesn't surprise me.


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