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Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
#6200542
03/26/18 11:42 PM
03/26/18 11:42 PM
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east TN, USA
harleydparts
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What's the attraction? I like revolvers, got a bunch of them and need a bunch more but why buy a carbine to shoot revolver cartridges? I get the velocity thing, add 20 inches of barrel and get 400 fps more but why? That's why 30/30's exist. Get a carbine in 45/70 if you want a big chunk of lead at low velocity. I prefer revolvers in 4 5/8" barrel length, no more than 6". My favorite revolver calibers are 44 special & 45 colt and I have no understanding of why I would want to put those calipers in a carbine. I have a Freedom Arms in 45 colt that will kill deer about as far as I'd shoot a deer with an open sighted 30/30 so why bother? I've had a 460 & 500 S&W, the 460 might as well be a rifle cartridge in a contender, the 500 is fun but overkill for just about everything around here. In all fairness I do have to admit I have a fondness for the BFR in 45/70. Educate me yea gun gurus.
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
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03/27/18 12:07 AM
03/27/18 12:07 AM
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Iowa
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The main reason why I'd be interested in one is this is the list of legal deer calibers in Iowa... The following center-fire cartridges may be
used, along with others not identified in this list
that meet the straight-walled cartridge criteria
in the next section below: .357 Magnum, .357
Maximum, .375 Winchester, .38 Super, .40 S&W,
.401 Powermag, 10 mm Auto, .41 Remington
Magnum, .41 Action Express, .44 S&W Special,
.44 Remington Magnum, .44 Automag, .444
Marlin, .445 Super Mag, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45
Super Mag, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Silhouette,
.450 Bushmaster, .451 Detonics, .454
Casull, .45-70 Govt., .460 Rowland, .460 S&W
Mag, .475 Widley Magnum, .475 Linebaugh,
.480 Ruger, .50 Action Express, .50 Linebaugh,
.50 Beowulf and .500 S&W Mag.
Allowable Straight-walled Cartridge Criteria:
■ Center-fired straight-walled rimless cartridges
chambered for handgun use with bullets from
0.357” to 0.500” diameter and a case length
from 0.850” to 1.800.”
■ Center-fired straight-walled rimmed cartridges
chambered for handgun use with bullets from
0.357” to 0.500” diameter with a case length
from 1.285” to 1.800.”
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
[Re: harleydparts]
#6200563
03/27/18 12:15 AM
03/27/18 12:15 AM
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williams,mn
trapper les
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That tubular mag on them levers or old pumps held a lot of rounds . I like that .
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
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#6200582
03/27/18 01:26 AM
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williams,mn
trapper les
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My cousin sent me a link to that Keltek a couple weeks ago... I'd like one, lol. That's an urban defense gun right there. I think it comes in .40 sw too.
Last edited by trapper les; 03/27/18 01:26 AM.
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
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#6200585
03/27/18 01:29 AM
03/27/18 01:29 AM
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williams,mn
trapper les
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I'd like to see another run of the tube mag pump in 25-20. Nice, light, nostalgic, lol.
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
[Re: trapper les]
#6200586
03/27/18 01:30 AM
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My cousin sent me a link to that Keltek a couple weeks ago... I'd like one, lol. That's an urban defense gun right there. I think it comes in .40 sw too. It will get you home and it is e-z to conceal.
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
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03/27/18 06:36 AM
03/27/18 06:36 AM
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Daughter bought my son in law one of those brass receiver lever action henry's in 357 a few years ago. I'd call it a 75 yard deer rifle. He brought it over here right after he got it. I think cause he figured I had a lot of cast bullet 357 ammo loaded. He was right. We shot that rifle for several hours. Lot of fun and a good shooter. Harley your right. Lots of cartridges out there that can reach out a long ways. But a pretty lever gun that is fun to shoot? What is there not to like?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
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#6200663
03/27/18 07:42 AM
03/27/18 07:42 AM
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Hancock Co., Indiana
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There's fewer laws and regulations on carbines than there are on buying, owning, carrying a handgun.
Some people like to have a rifle and pistol that fire the same cartridge so they don't need to carry two different kinds of ammo.
Pistol caliber rifles are fun and easy to shoot and possibly more economical to shoot than are rifle calibers.
State hunting regulations may make pistol caliber rifles legal for hunting where larger centerfire cartridges are not legal for deer hunting. (On state property in Indiana you can hunt deer with a pistol chambered in .35 Remington but the same cartridges are not legal as a "pistol caliber rifle". Crazy, huh?)
So, there's a few reasons.
But generally speaking, I'm with you... If carrying a rifle or carbine, I'd generally prefer to have a traditional rifle caliber.
What from Christ that soul can sever,
Bound by everlasting bands?
None shall take thee
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
[Re: trapper les]
#6200703
03/27/18 08:31 AM
03/27/18 08:31 AM
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My cousin sent me a link to that Keltek a couple weeks ago... I'd like one, lol. That's an urban defense gun right there. I think it comes in .40 sw too. Oh no! You have that wayyyy wrong. That right there is an “ASSAULT” rifle. lol
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
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03/27/18 09:18 AM
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most people do 90% or better of their shooting inside 100 yards , so a pistol carbine will do most everything they need.
light recoil , less expensive ammo , less noise in some cases
lots of fun , and much of it has t do with the ability to go buy 50 rounds of 9mm for 11 dollars and 20 rounds of even cheap fmj for 10 to 16
when we could buy an SKS for 99 dollars and 50 round sacks of 7.62x39 for 5 dollars that is what we shot a lot of ,it was good enough for most anything inside 100 yards.
also shooting steel , is huge now , 9mm carbines can even be run on indoor ranges , make it even better when your handgun and carbine run the same mags.
2 gun PCC/pistol competitions at ranges often inside 100 yards think IDPA style course with a carbine and handgun you take targets till you run your carbine dry then draw your sidearm and finish. 223 just tears up steel targets , the AR500 1/2 inch is much more expensive and you still are not safe to shoot it at closer distances under 100 yards
Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 03/27/18 09:21 AM.
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Re: Handgun calipers in a rifle, I just don't get it
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#6200739
03/27/18 09:20 AM
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Or you can reverse the process like I did. Get a Marlin guide gun in 45/70 first. Then get a TC Encore in the same caliber,put a 4 power scope on it and out and make some serious noise.  Brad
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