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NAFA vs FHA #6177794
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Sell me here. I have only sold to NAFA in the past. Is this a Ford vs Chevy thing?? I want to hear your best sales pitch. I think his would help a few of us guys who haven’t had experience with one or the other. I am not trying to just stir the pot, rather just see the good and bad.

Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177797
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You say you aren't trying to stir the pot, but in reality you have.

I think I will go make some popcorn. Any one care to join me.......


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Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177799
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Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177800
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Maybe but I am interested. I only have experience with NAFA. I have been happy with the money I have made with them. I had previously sold to a country buyer who is a really good guy. Taught me a lot. However, I dang near quadrupled my money selling to NAFA. So that being said I want to know why I should switch or if their is any advantage. Really not trying to lay troll bait but if I have...... well hen popcorn for me as well.

Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177802
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Then if you quadrupled your money y swicht

Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Barryf] #6177807
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Originally Posted By: Barryf
Then if you quadrupled your money y swicht


Same reason I switched before. Added value. I wouldn’t know though because I have no knowledge of FHA thus the post.

Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177808
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Long haired fur to NAFA, short hair to FHA . I cant tell you folks why I do it this way. I may just be divinely inspired .


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Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177812
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I am curious also. I have just sold to FHA and never to NAFA. I have heard the long hair short hair pricing difference also.

Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177816
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This might start somt hing I assure you it's not my intent and I know it's off topic but what's a troll,

this is my first time going to NAFA mostly cause are buyers are few and far between seems to be a good choice!
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Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Redsleeves] #6177823
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Originally Posted By: Redsleeves
This might start somt hing I assure you it's not my intent and I know it's off topic but what's a troll,


Someone who makes comments in a post to simply upset other while bringing no value to the conversation. I.E. saying simply Groeny Rocks

Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177825
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On years like this I think it’s best to spread your fur out to several buyers. Send 50% Nafa 25% FHA 25% country buyer

Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177826
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Kansas Rook - you say you quadrupled your money by switching from your local buyer to NAFA. You say your local buyer is a good guy. How can he be a good guy if he is making that much money off your fur. Assuming of course he sells at NAFA, which every one knows that is where all country dealers sell.

What you aren't factoring in are market changes. Take muskrats - the market changes over time. One year you could sell in the county for a $3.00 average. The next year you sell at NAFA for a $6.00 average. Which is doubling your money. BUT do you know what your rats would have averaged in the country the year you sold to NAFA?


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Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177830
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One thing for sure NAFA for coyotes FHA for beavers. My experience with fox and rats is they seem to be pretty much the same.

Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: wissmiss] #6177831
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Originally Posted By: wissmiss
Kansas Rook - you say you quadrupled your money by switching from your local buyer to NAFA. You say your local buyer is a good guy. How can he be a good guy if he is making that much money off your fur. Assuming of course he sells at NAFA, which every one knows that is where all country dealers sell.

What you aren't factoring in are market changes. Take muskrats - the market changes over time. One year you could sell in the county for a $3.00 average. The next year you sell at NAFA for a $6.00 average. Which is doubling your money. BUT do you know what your rats would have averaged in the country the year you sold to NAFA?


I thought you were going to go and make some popcorn?


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Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177834
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Do NOT send early season otter to FHA. Bluish leather will get you a #3 grade even though the fur is perfect.


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Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: wissmiss] #6177836
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Originally Posted By: wissmiss
Kansas Rook - you say you quadrupled your money by switching from your local buyer to NAFA. You say your local buyer is a good guy. How can he be a good guy if he is making that much money off your fur. Assuming of course he sells at NAFA, which every one knows that is where all country dealers sell.

What you aren't factoring in are market changes. Take muskrats - the market changes over time. One year you could sell in the county for a $3.00 average. The next year you sell at NAFA for a $6.00 average. Which is doubling your money. BUT do you know what your rats would have averaged in the country the year you sold to NAFA?


Yes actually I had fur in front of him, turned down the offer and sold to NAFA that year. No he doesn’t sell to NAFA he sells to private buyers. Yes, I said he is a good guy and I believe that to be true. He simply doesn’t value finished fur at a much greater click than carcas fur. Ultimately, he was buying with his money and he has a right to offer whatever he wants. That isn’t really an indication of character in my mind. So back to the original question Wis, why is NAFA better or worse?

Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177839
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Re: NAFA vs FHA [Re: Kansas Rook] #6177850
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There are differences in how each of the these two auction houses operate, are owned and also how much detail etc. one may receive and how quickly that information is received but to me they both represent an extremely similar method for a fur harvester to have a firm handle and auction ones fur. The larger question to me would be how do these two large auction houses differ from large scale, medium and smaller local buyers or reps for larger independent fur collection firms.

The final destinations for much fur may be similar but over the course of decades or generations unique and niche markets may have been found or created by individual firms and or buyers. To me that would be interesting to review or discuss. Due to the very parochial nature of the fur business however it may not be a discussion that many buyers may want to enter into.

Bryce

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At the auctions,the trapper benefits from part lotting.Part lotting is not offered for the trappers benefit outside the big auction houses.

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