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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6169162
02/24/18 10:31 PM
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Don’t be stupid I’ve been gaming since I was 3 and never had the urge to shoot up anything violent video games are all most of what I play

Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6169181
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Maybe Im getting old but seems like over the generations things have not got better in this country. Seems like in my days kids for the most part respected the flag, went to church, spent time with parents and family. If you lived in a big city there was TV and it was limited and what you watched was not full of graphic violence and sex. It was a privilege to put up the flag in the school yard and recite the "Pledge of Allegiance" what has changed things it has to make you wonder. Some of the stuff on TV now even the sitcoms are pretty disgusting. Im not saying it was a perfect world but its gotten pretty bad, really would you rather have your kid watching a trapping video or playing some of the games they have now.

Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6169196
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Danvee, as a parent my preference would be the trapping video.

As a citizen of the U.S. what other people do with their kids is, for the most part, none of my business.

Mike


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6169198
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you all that played video games all your life and never felt the need to shoot up the neighborhood . bet you wouldn't feel the need to eat a tide pod if you watched some moron do it on you tube , HUNDREDS DID. the tide pod deal is kind of like thinning the herd so to speak .nobody hurt but the morons eating the pods .

Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6169349
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if video games make you do violent things you gotta be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) up in the head already or very weak minded


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6170466
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there are many out there touched in the head and week minded .
shooting my gun never once made me want to go out and shoot a bunch of people . I've spent untold hours shooting things with my gun never once have I looked over my sight of my unloaded gun at somebody and thought it might be cool to shoot somebody .
Some reason almost half the politicians in this country are trying t to take my guns away .

Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6170508
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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6170624
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It’s not mental illness folks. It’s called Absent Parenting.


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--Mark Twain.

Re: Violent video games [Re: Mike in A-town] #6170632
02/26/18 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mike in A-town
So Don your stance is that responsible parents are able to judge what is acceptable entertainment for their kids... perhaps even on a kid-by-kid basis?

Mike


This is exactly what I would say. I've played video games since I was about 5. First Atari, then Nintendo, graduated to Sega, then Playstation. Quit for a time, then got a Wii, then an Xbox. I played Wii tonight, Mario. I don't want to kill anyone. I play Call of Duty from time to time, still don't want to kill anyone. COD is just soldiers doing their job. Blaming a game like that for killings is the same as saying anyone that served in the Military could be nothing but a killer....it's stupid. In Call of Duty, players are killing for good, not evil... as is true for most video games....except one that I know of.

Grand Theft Auto.......is bad. It glorifies killing cops, pedestrians... pretty much anyone that you meet that wants to prevent you from doing evil. If your kids are hooked on THAT game, you might want to take notice!

If your kid is in his room, or the living room, playing COD for a few hours a day, I don't see a reason to worry but if he's sitting there yelling DIE! DIE! DIE! and acting all crazy about it then, YEAH, you should probably pay attention to that. Not all kids are the same... the majority can handle first person shooting games... some kids... not so much. The key is... and I know this might be hard but....... PAY ATTENTION to your dang kids. Not just their video games... but their friends, their habits, their grades, their everything. Be a PARENT, not a buddy.


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6170649
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I don't believe there are more insane people per 100,000 than 50 years ago. Might even be less. I don't believe your kids are at greater risk either. Probably less. I don't believe there is anything that can be done to reduce mass murder in the U.S. short of committing people to insane asylums again. That aint gonna happen. Putting an end to that was one of Reagans biggest mistakes. I have some advice though for anybody working to trample on my rights. Get a new plan.


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6170666
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Not everybody who drinks a beer will become an alcoholic. Not everybody who plays the bloody and guts games will be a killer. Those who lean to the wacko side will love these games and be MOST will be satisfied with only killing people in the game.

Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6170990
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I mentored a kid long maybe 8 years ago he was from a broken home his mom asked me to take him out and be a role model for him. He was into the video games his mom tried everything to get him away from them and TV. Got him on the trapline and hunting once the kid scared my to death. Only interest he had was wanting to dispatch the animal in the trap. After I shot an antelope he wanted to use my gun to shoot it at close range in the head to see what would happen and talked about what he had viewed on different video games. I talked to his mother about my concerns and she though a good parent could not pick up on my concerns. This kid really scared me and I would never let him get near a gun, several times he came over and wanted to handle or see my guns, in short the kid was obsessed with them. They moved away the following year keep thinking I will see his name on the news someday. Im not saying every kid that watches a violent video is going over the top but it might be what pushes them over the edge. For one Im all for a law to keep guns secure to many are stolen or used for the wrong reason in the heat of an argument, or a young kid getting curious.

Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6171031
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The foundation of the family has changed many tools needed for a child to grow up prepared for life are not just not there anymore. It's like a PC with no software on it in some cases.


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Hillbilly910] #6171201
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Originally Posted By: Hillbilly910
Mortal Kombat taught me how to rip a persons head off, spine attached, and make it look cool(points if you remember the character). Yet ive never done it.
That was 1992...and boy howdy did folks get upset about that. Yall remember the blood code? How many of us who do committed school shootings?

Im sure spine ripping cases are on the rise since that game was the certain end of society back then, lotsa folks said so...
here we are later, blaming games.

sheeesh



Because violent video games have no affect on you, you feel it's the same for everyone who plays them? According to many mental health experts, it's not. The percentage is small, but there have been cases where kids have acted out these games in real life. No different than kids who act out a school shooting from a movie they saw. And that's not debatable, but proven. See Natural Born Killers and Basketball Diaries.

There was a case of a movie that I don't remember the name of where 3 kids kill another kid. These 3 guys saw the movie. They decided it might be cool to do the same. So, the 3 of them took this nerdy kid from school and they put him in intensive care. They admitted to having been inspired by the movie.

How about the 3 kids who committed suicide while playing Ozzie Ozborne's Suicide Solution? Coincidence?


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6171207
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One of the reasons why all these shooters have played these games is because almost every kid out there is or has played them. If you ask around you will be hard pressed to find any kid over 11 that's hasn't played one of these games

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Originally Posted By: nh-dan7971
One of the reasons why all these shooters have played these games is because almost every kid out there is or has played them. If you ask around you will be hard pressed to find any kid over 11 that's hasn't played one of these games


I'm not hard pressed to find kids who haven't played these games cause I know of some who haven't. But, you are right in that the large majority of kids who have played them aren't going to act them out in real life. But, it's possible these shooters have. We know some have acted out based on movies. It's not just these games that causes people to do these things, but rather a combination of things. But, this could be a contributing factor.


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6171225
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Ban t.v. too. Go back to reading comic books. Make 'merica grrrrreat again.

Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6171584
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99% of all serial killers consumed bread within 24 hours of commiting their murders. Is bread the cause?


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Re: Violent video games [Re: jbyrd63] #6171872
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Originally Posted By: jbyrd63
You guys ever hear of the term brain washing. Video games meets the criteria
Their brainwashed, they hear you... but don't "hear" you!


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6172819
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Originally Posted By: Don
Hillbilly you have missed the entire point. It is about responsibility and respect. If your kids plays videos, you are responsible to tell them ,yes it is fun but it is not reality you can't do that in real life or yes we can play cops and robbers and you shoot the bad guy BUT IT IS NOT REAL LIFE. You need to learn respect and pass it on. No one respects anyone anymore. Your posts are a sign of that. I have an opinion and you are doing everything in your power to disrespect that opinion.You disagree of course and chose to only blame mental illness, not offering an alternative solution. Possibly moderating intake could change a mental conception of the facts.No censorship necessary just guidance.


I'm sorry you feel that way.
But I stand by what I said, the blame game is a black hole, guns, games, TV, whatever.
I take young'uns hunting and fishing all the time. I can't be their parents, but I do my part. Does it help? No scientific data, but I'd like to think so.

The hilarious nature of how video games are evil, makes me chuckle, the idea that since graphics are better, unlike the cell phone you own, is, well, hypocritical.

Guns have evolved too, is that bad?


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