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Hip caught fox #6149566 02/06/18 01:59 AM 02/06/18 01:59 AM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 25 Tioga County, Pennsyvania freeze OP trapper
freeze OP trapper Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 25 Tioga County, Pennsyvania	I just got finished skinning out a red fox that was hip caught in a cable restraint, man what a bloody mess. Never would have thought from looking at him before skinning.

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: freeze] #6149706 02/06/18 09:45 AM 02/06/18 09:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,701 S.E. Ohio M M.Magis trapper
M.Magis trapper M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,701 S.E. Ohio	I somehow managed to hip catch a coyote this weekend, and like you said, what a mess. Like tying to skin a blob of jelly. Last edited by M.Magis; 02/06/18 02:20 PM.

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: freeze] #6149878 02/06/18 12:56 PM 02/06/18 12:56 PM
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bleeohio Unregistered B	When it came to learning to cable canines, the biggest hurdle I had was making sure the loop wasn't to big. It's amazing, especially fox, how they can get those front legs through.

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: freeze] #6149897 02/06/18 01:23 PM 02/06/18 01:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,885 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,885 Wisconsin	I hip caught a coyote to and It wasn't all that bad. Not as bad as some of those jelly heads. And we can't go any bigger then a 12" loop. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: freeze] #6149946 02/06/18 02:17 PM 02/06/18 02:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,718 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,718 Rodney,Ohio	Are you guys in PA allowed to use inline swivels on your snares or do you have to use a one peice CR? It would really reduce the bruising you get. http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6150014 02/06/18 03:42 PM 02/06/18 03:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 25 Tioga County, Pennsyvania freeze OP trapper
freeze OP trapper Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 25 Tioga County, Pennsyvania	Originally Posted By: SNIPERBBB Are you guys in PA allowed to use inline swivels on your snares or do you have to use a one peice CR? It would really reduce the bruising you get. I see nothing in the regulations against using inline swivels and I been using them because it helps to reduce chew outs as well as placing small sticks at the site for them to chew on. Them critters sure can booger up a cable restraint.

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6150020 02/06/18 03:48 PM 02/06/18 03:48 PM
Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 101 Pa O one toe trapper
one toe trapper O Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 101 Pa	Originally Posted By: SNIPERBBB Are you guys in PA allowed to use inline swivels on your snares or do you have to use a one peice CR? It would really reduce the bruising you get. We can use an inline swivel, and I do on all my CR's. I still get bruising with hip catches and to a lesser extent if they get one leg through. I've always chocked it up to being a tender area especially the hip/under belly. By far most of my catches are textbook neck.

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: one toe] #6150044 02/06/18 04:26 PM 02/06/18 04:26 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,794 100 Mile House, BC Can bctomcat trapper
bctomcat trapper Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,794 100 Mile House, BC Can	IMO hip catches are generally from setting unloaded snares to low. The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: bctomcat] #6150213 02/06/18 08:20 PM 02/06/18 08:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,413 Iowa ~ADC~ The Count
~ADC~ The Count Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 16,413 Iowa	Originally Posted By: bctomcat IMO hip catches are generally from setting unloaded snares to low. x2 too low is a big problem. I wouldn't set a snare lower than 10" off the ground for fox. Want to hit them right under the chin.

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: freeze] #6150218 02/06/18 08:24 PM 02/06/18 08:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,718 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,718 Rodney,Ohio	Originally Posted By: freeze Originally Posted By: SNIPERBBB Are you guys in PA allowed to use inline swivels on your snares or do you have to use a one peice CR? It would really reduce the bruising you get. I see nothing in the regulations against using inline swivels and I been using them because it helps to reduce chew outs as well as placing small sticks at the site for them to chew on. Them critters sure can booger up a cable restraint. Reds are nothing compared to grey fox in a snare. Especially if its not inline swiveled. http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: one toe] #6151141 02/07/18 08:29 PM 02/07/18 08:29 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 25 Tioga County, Pennsyvania freeze OP trapper
freeze OP trapper Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 25 Tioga County, Pennsyvania	Originally Posted By: one toe Originally Posted By: SNIPERBBB Are you guys in PA allowed to use inline swivels on your snares or do you have to use a one peice CR? It would really reduce the bruising you get. We can use an inline swivel, and I do on all my CR's. I still get bruising with hip catches and to a lesser extent if they get one leg through. I've always chocked it up to being a tender area especially the hip/under belly. By far most of my catches are textbook neck. Same here, I told the young fellow that brought me the fox that swivels are cheap and to raise his loop up a little more.

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: bctomcat] #6151151 02/07/18 08:40 PM 02/07/18 08:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 5,445 Southern Michigan T trappergbus trapper
trappergbus trapper T Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 5,445 Southern Michigan	Originally Posted By: bctomcat IMO hip catches are generally from setting unloaded snares to low. X2 and the loop is bigger than 8 inches. In tight cover try 6 inch loops at 10 inches from the walking surface. Reds are more agile than they are given credit for, greys are more so. Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..

Re: Hip caught fox [Re: freeze] #6151155 02/07/18 08:43 PM 02/07/18 08:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,579 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,579 james bay frontierOnt.	I set all snares at jackpots no bigger than 7 in loop and no higher than 6 in off the ground for cats and fox.Trail sets higher. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

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