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Otter ? #6148288
02/04/18 11:12 PM
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Anybody ever use a foothold in the trail from creek to the pond. I would use a conibear but illegal on land in Tennessee.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6148300
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With a drowner rig. Those buggers are a real handful alive in a trap.

Osky


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Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6148318
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The water is shallow at the creek and at the pond I can put a 330 . Plan on setting the creek with a few 330's and all the toilets with 750's. I thought I would try a blind set on the trail but didn't know if it would spook them,with one in the trap.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6148420
02/05/18 12:27 AM
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I don' think you want to mess with a live otter in a trap on land. Listen to what Osky said.

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Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6148494
02/05/18 05:49 AM
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I’ve caught them in #2’s. Big dirt hole I had set by the creek for bobcat. They’re kind of bipolar on land in a foothold.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6148580
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I've caught a small pile in 1.5 dukes in trail sets, never had an issue holding them. Use a small stepping stick 4-5" from pan center and keep them from tangling on anything.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6148671
02/05/18 10:17 AM
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I've cought them in pockets along the Creek in a 1.5 laminated ...setting for coon . It held them and they were in the bank waiting. Not something I think should be done regularly, 330 in the creek is better.


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Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6148712
02/05/18 11:00 AM
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I have snared them coming out of shallow water at a crossover. Got one in exactly the same place 3 years running. The first was still very much alive when I got there. Pretty much just a blur of motion non-stop with no sign of slowing down. Quite amazing animals.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6148783
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330 why don't you think a person shouldn't target them with a foothold in a non drowning situation? I ve personally never seen any damage. Just curious.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6148827
02/05/18 12:36 PM
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One trapper told me an otter was like a beaver on steroids in the water. Probably live on land, much worse.


The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6149240
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Thanks, probably skip out on the foot hold on the trail and hit the toilets and blind set the creek

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6149258
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1.5, 1.75 , 2 all will work make sure stout chain and swivel heavy, I've caught several in 1 1/2 long springs in shallow water rat set, they ant grizzly bears there otters and no match for a 22.
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Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6150018
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Originally Posted By: Tommie
Thanks, probably skip out on the foot hold on the trail and hit the toilets and blind set the creek


Set the creek using pocket sets with a drowning cable. I have caught otter in pocket sets using a 1 1/2 coil on a 3/32nd drowning cable set. Everyone was caught by the front foot and drowned.


The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6150095
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Would a 220 not be a better choice I have found them to be more efficient on otter then a 330 with them quick little buggers~


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Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6150156
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A trail from a creek to pond is one of the best set locations possible for otter, Raccoon, mink and muskrat. If open water run a drowner to deep water and place a 1.5 or 2 Trap which ever legal in your state. Plase the trap under approx 2 inches of water and at base of trail both ends pond and creek, make sure to add lure on the bank both sides of slide. I would still conceal a body grip of legal size 160 being perfect if legal as it will catch all furbearers mentioned. When trapping especially water trapping I like to gang set and be out in a couple days to new ground.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6150158
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Law Dog 220 would be perfect if legal. Question than is ethical as 220 could seriously harm a hound, much less likely with a 160 which will get the job done.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6150217
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220s when set in open trail sets, not crawl unders or cubbies, are very hound safe. Hounds will go over the seven inch opening every time unless baited or blocked.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6150238
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walleye101 - would beagles go under 220? I was just taught to not set 220, 280 or 330 on land weather legal or not. Even when I set 330's I set everyone under the water with a dive stick.

Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6150267
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Re: Otter ? [Re: Tommie] #6150274
02/06/18 09:19 PM
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Fur Minator what kind of a set was it, besides a set that caught an otter? Nice Otter.

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