Re: Bundy's Walk......
[Re: hippie]
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The leaches were to tight to even pay a reduced rate for grazing Exactly, so NOW the taxpayers need to get that outa them!........as well as prosecute the knuckleheads that blew the case!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
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01/08/18 07:01 PM
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Except....in those instances didnt they take over federal land?
No Tweed, In Those Instances, The Victims Were United States Citizens Attacked By Armed Agents Of The Federal Government On Their Own Land. 14 Year Old Boys Shot In The Back While Running Away, and Mothers Head Shot In Their Doorway While Holding Their Infant Daughter. Also Innocent Women And Children C.S Gassed And Then Burned To Death while Trapped Inside A Wooden Structure While Armed Federal Agents Waited Outside To Gun Them Down. Those Were BATF & Janet Reno's Crowning Moments While Attorney General Under Slick Willy, The Chicken Plucker. w Sorry....my auto-correct changed it wrong. Correct...those people we're in their own property minding their own business. The Bundy's weren't. They took over a federal building because the felt they were wrong, they didn't like the law....sounds like a McVeigh and Nickels mindset. Correct.
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
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gerkil-osmerkel seems to be an authority on the situation and the history......all the way from pa no less, bet he read it on some extreme liberal website. wish we could wipe out liberalism, 3/4's of these situations wouldn't even exist. RR Ain't chew from west by-god virginny there, ridge? ya'll need ta do some map learnin' down there yonder.
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
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01/08/18 07:27 PM
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I have mixed feelings on this one.
I have no sympathy for ranchers who think they own public land; I know of cases where ranchers have tried to fence off land and block roads that access public land. Just because they have a grazing lease doesn't mean they own the land.
On the other hand, I don't like government officials running rough-shod over citizens, and using crooked tactics to prosecute them. The Feds should have just shared the info they had with the Bundy defense team instead of trying to be sneaky about it; they may have been successful of getting a conviction if they had.
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
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I have mixed feelings on this one.
I have no sympathy for ranchers who think they own public land; I know of cases where ranchers have tried to fence off land and block roads that access public land. Just because they have a grazing lease doesn't mean they own the land.
On the other hand, I don't like government officials running rough-shod over citizens, and using crooked tactics to prosecute them. The Feds should have just shared the info they had with the Bundy defense team instead of trying to be sneaky about it; they may have been successful of getting a conviction if they had. Agreed. And as someone else pointed out... If this was a slam-dunk case for the government, why hide evidence from the defense? Mike
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
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01/08/18 09:30 PM
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He owes over 1 million dollars. I guess that could be a reason for looking for a way to get out from under HIS DEBT. No good, lousy, thief. Just another of the takers who take from all of us. Dont let facts cloud your judgement, he was willing to pay but refused to pay the agency that was selling him out and whos only goal was to try to put him out of business. Read the history of what went on, all of the history, then form an educated opinion. And im not saying he was 100% in the right but where do you make your stand when those that are supposed to be working with and for you re trying to eliminate you and your lively hood. Follow the money and who profited from the reduction and buyouts of these ranchers. Hint he has one good eye answers to pinky and was a senator.
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
[Re: nvwrangler]
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01/08/18 09:42 PM
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Yes sir
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He owes over 1 million dollars. I guess that could be a reason for looking for a way to get out from under HIS DEBT. No good, lousy, thief. Just another of the takers who take from all of us. Dont let facts cloud your judgement, he was willing to pay but refused to pay the agency that was selling him out and whos only goal was to try to put him out of business. Read the history of what went on, all of the history, then form an educated opinion. And im not saying he was 100% in the right but where do you make your stand when those that are supposed to be working with and for you re trying to eliminate you and your lively hood. Follow the money and who profited from the reduction and buyouts of these ranchers. Hint he has one good eye answers to pinky and was a senator. X2 some of you on here are making judgement based on what the liberal media wants you to think. Not on all the facts. As far as the mining company paying I believe it was uranium they were going to mine and it had to do with the company that Obama and Clinton let be bought by the Russians. Surprise surprise.. not saying Bundys are all in the right but they did stand up for what is right. It was big government trying to push the little guy out of the way and the little guy stood up to the government. That's enough to have my support. A lot more to the story than most people know.
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
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I have mixed feelings on this one.
I have no sympathy for ranchers who think they own public land; I know of cases where ranchers have tried to fence off land and block roads that access public land. Just because they have a grazing lease doesn't mean they own the land.
On the other hand, I don't like government officials running rough-shod over citizens, and using crooked tactics to prosecute them. The Feds should have just shared the info they had with the Bundy defense team instead of trying to be sneaky about it; they may have been successful of getting a conviction if they had. X3
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
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Wow that's crazy courtroom theater White! One would think the judge would have a copy of the detainer from Nevada to show the attorney and the man just aquitted, that he is in fact not a free man. Rather than just take the government's word for it. Outrageous.
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
[Re: waggler]
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I have mixed feelings on this one.
I have no sympathy for ranchers who think they own public land; I know of cases where ranchers have tried to fence off land and block roads that access public land. Just because they have a grazing lease doesn't mean they own the land.
On the other hand, I don't like government officials running rough-shod over citizens, and using crooked tactics to prosecute them. The Feds should have just shared the info they had with the Bundy defense team instead of trying to be sneaky about it; they may have been successful of getting a conviction if they had. Same here and well said. Still think there is a lot more to the story than will ever be known but for the federal gov to come down like they did was overkill and excessive looking to prove a point. Might as well have been brown shirts. Flip side is rules are rules and they should have paid the fees as agreed to, if there is more to that so be it, but maybe take the cattle and sell them at auction? Or something? Has to be a better way than almost causing a bloodbath. J
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
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Those of you pointing a finger at the Bundys and calling them thieves remember what the guys that were breaking the laws at the Boston tea party did for you True and a lot can be said that those "militia" in the standoff kinda reinforced the fact that Americans can and will fight, sure the government paid attention. J
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Re: Bundy's Walk......
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01/08/18 11:27 PM
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Yes sir
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I'm with you Ridge Runner!!!I'm sure that feller in PA loves Obamacare and will be voting for Oprah in the next presidential election. speaking of which I was think about how fun it would be to see Trump and Oprah in a head to head debate
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