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Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6113939
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I have a friend who is a nurse, and she doesn't take the shot. She told me that the flu shot is extremely unpopular in the medical profession, and that pharmacists get kickbacks for selling them. I got the idea that the flu shot is pushed more by the producers than anybody . I've never had one .


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Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6113955
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First time I got the shot was the first time I got the flu that I can remember. Never got another flu shot and never got the flu again. At this point I'll let my bodies natural defense do it's thing. It seems to be working pretty good.

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: Yes sir] #6113965
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No flu shot for the wife and I and NO vaccines for the kids, just the government trying to poison us

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: trapper les] #6113976
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Originally Posted By: trapper les
I have a friend who is a nurse, and she doesn't take the shot. She told me that the flu shot is extremely unpopular in the medical profession, and that pharmacists get kickbacks for selling them. I got the idea that the flu shot is pushed more by the producers than anybody . I've never had one .


I have a nurse friend too Les blush and she told me the same thing. Also said if you get sick from the shot it's because you are allergic to the fillers in the shot not the flu virus. I'm not sure I believe that though.

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6113992
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My daughter is a nurse, where she works they require the flu shot, she got around it, Ž several there have now had the flu. But that's not my point. The announced half way through administering the shot to workers that some "unknown particLs" have been found I. The vaccine. The stopped giving shots for a short period of time, then started right back up using same stuff

Not good


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Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6113994
01/05/18 09:04 AM
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Got my 1st flu shot in 1982 and have had one every year since. Had a mild reaction one time and a short bout of flue one other time. Other than that I have not had the flu in 35 years whereas before the shot I got the flu every year - sick for 10 days or so, and caught everything else going around all winter afterwards. So for me the flu shot has been a boon.

My brother never gets the shot and doesn't get the flu. Well actually, he never admits getting the flu. He also wouldn't wear a seatbelt for decades. Rocket scientist he is (for real).

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6114063
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I havent had polio, tetnus, diptheria, measles, whooping cough, plague, mumps, smallpox, or flu. I think shots work. If you dont, ask an Indian or better yet, a survivor from the original people of the Dominican Republic. Im sorry, I forgot, our diseases killed every single native of their island after Columbus 2nd voyage landed sick Spaniards there.

DO VACCINES KILL OR SAVE LIVES?

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6114076
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Vaccines work. Science is real.

It's true the flu vaccine was less effective than usual this year but vaccinations are safe and effective.


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Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6114080
01/05/18 10:26 AM
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The elderly are also the most likely to die of heart disease and cancer.

The key is never get old! grin

Originally Posted By: AntiGov
No government poison for me. The elderly make up the greatest number of flu shot takers and also make up the greatest number of flu deaths ..........hmmmmmmmm


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Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: Skull Guy] #6114090
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or trying to protect your kids and other from terrible (and preventable) disease like whooping cough, diphtheria, measles, polio, tetanus..




Originally Posted By: Skull Guy
... NO vaccines for the kids, just the government trying to poison us


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Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6114100
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More soldiers (young healthy people) died of the flu in WWI than of combat. Entire shiploads of soldiers neatly died in days. They were not enfants or elderly, and they were in the prime of their lives, fit, and well fed.

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6114106
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I work with vulnerable people so its highly recommended I get it. Since working here and getting the shot annually I haven't gotten the flu. A cold every other year yes, but not the flu.

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6114112
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Yes, the Spanish flu targeted the healthy in their prime. An unusual circumstance.

With the elderly it's not normally the flu that kills them but subsequent infections. Often pneumonia. They get too run down from the flu to fight off the pneumonia.

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: EdP] #6114133
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Only A Moron, Imbecile, Or Idiot Wouldn't Get The Influenza Shot ! frown

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Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: lebowski] #6114137
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Do some research. When you and I were kids (I am assuming your age is between 35 and 65) we got a total of 10 vaccine shots up to 16 years old - for DTP (Diptheria, Pertussis and whooping cough), OPV (Inactive polio) and MMR (Measels, Mumps, and Rubella). I agree with all of those, they are dangerous and can lead to outbreaks and death. In 2017, the CDC schedule calls for 74 shots up to 16 years old. They have began using vaccines for things that aren't even found in places other than third world countries and things that aren't potentially fatal.

A 2 month old baby gets 3 shots, 7 vaccines. The amount of aluminum in the 3 shots combined is 26 times the FATAL level the CDC has in their guidelines. Who cares?

How many of us had Chicken Pox? Know anyone that died from it?


Originally Posted By: lebowski
or trying to protect your kids and other from terrible (and preventable) disease like whooping cough, diphtheria, measles, polio, tetanus..




Originally Posted By: Skull Guy
... NO vaccines for the kids, just the government trying to poison us

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: walleyed] #6114152
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Originally Posted By: walleyed
Only A Moron, Imbecile, Or Idiot Wouldn't Get The Influenza Shot ! frown

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I'm one of those morons, imbeciles or idiots. After seeing my daughter in law suffer through GBS for a year caused by the flu shot, there's no way I want to take the chance. She was in ICU for weeks on a ventilator, then months of slow recovery. I'll take my chances with the flu.



Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: walleyed] #6114180
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Originally Posted By: walleyed
Only A Moron, Imbecile, Or Idiot Wouldn't Get The Influenza Shot ! frown

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Have you considered that one or all of those may have contributed to your health problems?


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Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: Skull Guy] #6114219
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Originally Posted By: Skull Guy
No flu shot for the wife and I and NO vaccines for the kids, just the government trying to poison us
[quote

And you will have no one to blame but yourself when your child gets a dreaded disease that has all but been eradicated because of vaccines.

The ONLY reason you can even ATTEMPT to get away with no vaccinations is because of the millions of responsible parents who do vaccinate their kids. Think about that for a minute.

The goverment trying to poison us is one of the stupidest things I have ever read this on this site.

Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: Grouseman] #6114230
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Well put. Herd immunity, worth a read...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

Originally Posted By: Grouseman
Originally Posted By: Skull Guy
No flu shot for the wife and I and NO vaccines for the kids, just the government trying to poison us
[quote

And you will have no one to blame but yourself when your child gets a dreaded disease that has all but been eradicated because of vaccines.

The ONLY reason you can even ATTEMPT to get away with no vaccinations is because of the millions of responsible parents who do vaccinate their kids. Think about that for a minute.

The goverment trying to poison us is one of the stupidest things I have ever read this on this site.


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Re: Flu shot ? Si or no Si [Re: AntiGov] #6114233
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Oh oh someone called the Boss a moron! I guess I'm one too! No shot for me since I was I'm my teens (70's


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