One more for you guys. In that box there were a couple of rough cast jaw traps. What are these 2?

The one on top is easy, with the "V" in the pan it is a Victor. The other one I would need to see more detail. Can you read any of the letters on the pan? With the cast swivel, I do not think it is a Victor. It has a long pan shank and a short dog.

The second one could possibly be a "The Victor". Long pan shank and short dog are typical of that trap.

A picture showing the profile of the trap should/would/could confirm that.

The pan on the bottom appears to read Nort... so I'm guessing Hawley Norton.

It definitely reads victor across the edge of the pan and says no 1 but the rest is unreadable. I know the pics don't show it very well. Sorry these pics are upside down, I can't them right.

The pan and pan attachment is all one piece - right. Nothing riveted.

If so, I would say it is a The Victor.

Yes, it's one piece. The victor was on my list too, I was hoping that's what it was. Some the traps in this lot were powder coated, I hope this one isn't. I don't plan to sell it but what is the value?

It's a Victoria made by P.S. & W, one clue is the flat end on the short end of the cross piece on the base, the other clue is if you look real close you can see the I and A at the end of VICTOR, also the pan and pan shank are a two piece rivited together, not cast in one piece, if you look real close at the bottom of the pan, you can see some of the letters that make up P.S. & W CO.
In my humble opinion of course!

Ah yes, I completely missed the riveted pan, sorry. The pan and pan shank are NOT one solid piece.

Definately not The Victor

Trapper48 is probably on the right track.

If it is a Victoria, they are a very rare trap, unfortunately condition is everything in collector trap value and this is not in the best of shape, BUT if it is a Victoria, which I still believe it is, it is still worth putting on the wall, very few collectors have a VICTORIA in any size or condition

I see it in the light now. It does say Victoria. What can you tell me about it? When and where was it made? Is there any value in this condition? It looks like I won't be putting it back in a weasel box! Lol. Apparently a good find in a bin of junky traps.

The Victoria was made by PS & W around 1912 and only for a very short time, so there weren't alot of them made, they were made in sizes 0,1 and 1 1/2 and were made on the Hector frame as was the Good Luck traps with the swastika punched through the pan, like the V in the Victors. The Vitoria traps are hard to come by and in excellent condition are even harder to find, the pan lettering was stamped very lightly, like most of the Hector framed traps, so most of them won't read real well. Value wise is based on condition and yours will not grade on the higher end of the scale, please don't take offense by that last statement, it is not meant that way, the condition is what it is, so it's hard to put a price on it. Most collectors want a trap that is all readable, but there are also those collectors that are not as fussy, as long as the trap is complete, especially if it is a rare trap, a nice one should be worth from $100.00 on up to $200.00, but remember that is my opinion, the PS & W traps don't seem to have the value of some of the other brands, again that's my opinion.

No offense taken. I stated earlier they were rough and I appreciate the history lesson. I'm mostly interested in the value because I bought the traps for my son so it's his and I am going to have to buy it from him. I think if I clean the thick wax off and scrub a bit, most of the pan will be readable. Unfortunately, pitting doesn't clean up though.

If you can post a picture of the chain and ring, someone on here can tell you if that is original too. If you are going to have to buy it from your son, then the sky is the limit on price, so it has to be worth more to you than it would be to anyone else, RIGHT?

This is the same boy that broke the window on my front door last week! lol the hook looks to be cracked so I doubt if it's original but here is another pic. Thanks again guys, you're great.

I took a very nice #1 Victoria with 100% readable pan to a show in Ontario last year and sold it for $250. Mine had a cast swivel, flat link chain with the last link being cast 8. Indicative of PS & W.

Also I understand the Victoria was for sale in Canada, possibly to honor the Queen of that name. So I guess you could call it the Canadian Hector which it was identical to except for the pan stamp.

Fun of trap collecting here.