Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/17/12 06:18 PM
08/17/12 06:18 PM
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Pesky,
What is being referred to is not animals in an open truck bed, rather it is animals in cages being place on top of ladders or the cargo carriers you can put on a hitch/roof.
When animals are transported in this manner, the animals are easily put in distress due to sun/wind/weather exposure along with the stress they already experience from being trapped. Ask yourself if it was you in the cage, how would you want to be treated?
What activities like this do is bring negative emotional attention to the situation. So the lady that goes to McDonalds with her kids calls the evening news to complain about the trauma her kids went through from seeing the animals panting in the heat or shivering from cold. The news picks it up because they want conflict, it is what makes them money. They then call some animal rights group who then launches a campaign against trappers and wildlife control operators demanding more regulations. And if you think I'm kidding, this is exactly what happened in Washington, DC where operators have to keep their animals "covered from the elements" at all times due to a bill that was written by HSUS, introduced by a council woman so she could get their votes for re-election, and was passed by the council and mayor.
Another issue with this that is rarely talked about is the potential legalities caused by this action. Some areas classify this as animal cruelty and the operator can have multiple charges against them that may shut down their business. There is also the potential of having a law enforcement officer write a ticket for an unsafe or unsecured load and forcing the operator to unload and have the animals transered by another vehicle where they are viewed as secured.
It doesn't matter if the animal is going to be euthanized or released, nor what the operators individual rights are. There are multiple ways to avoid doing this and bringing negative attention to this industry. We know that one of the issues in this line of work is dealing with the animals, but the general public doesn't really understand it and most likely don't care as long as it doesn't interfere with their lives. But we all know that it is easier today for most parents to blame someone else for an issue than to explain what life really is all about to their children.
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/17/12 07:08 PM
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DaveK
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People care in our area. Posting photos of dead squirrels in a cab is poor taste....videos of unnecessarely hanging a skunk by the tail and throwing into a metal trap is cruel. Just a matter of time...someone is going to care.
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/17/12 07:53 PM
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DaveK
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Your crowd is shy? Try more topics to start conversations?
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/17/12 09:37 PM
08/17/12 09:37 PM
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Not unlike deer season where guys would hang a deer off the back of a camper to swing in the breeze. We can take it, and understand what's what, but way too many folks live on a Walt Disney planet, and don't like to see that sort of reality".
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: LT GREY]
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08/17/12 09:59 PM
08/17/12 09:59 PM
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LT what is your site. Paul W. posted it but it got deleted. I agree with sgs pesky is a good man and a hard worker. I think he's a get'rdone kind of guy and that sets well with his customers. The problem and Pesky doesn't realize it yet is we have a lot of customers but they are a minority of the population. In our society a vocal minority can influence the majority and things can go bad quick. Many laws come into being by a single incident. Tim Julien had a little class about something may be legal but that doesn't mean it's right. Pesky you need to set an example for your fellow pro's in your area and hide your catch. I think it will be a good idea in the long run by not having a statute or ordinance passed telling us how we have to treat animals. Pesky you are catching a lot of animals and I'm sure your charging a competitive rate you need to buy uniforms to hide that crack before some wild animal tries to hide there:-) Paul you shouldn't have talked about Pesky's son and his mentor that way. You were reacting to harshly when we only know a small part of the story.
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/17/12 10:04 PM
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DaveK
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Sqs, you are mistaking the teachable moments as criticism. There are meny guys on this site that are trying to help...to make the industry better.
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Re: Pesky & Son Started This
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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08/17/12 10:09 PM
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It seems to me that we decided a long time ago that having our caged animals in public view was one sure way to get the public to really hate our guts. I submit that many of those who knowingly display captured or dead animals in or on their vehicles are either a) attempting to impress their peers with their accomplishment, or b) deliberately prodding those who oppose such activity. We all know deer hunters who gladly risk spoiling good meat by driving around with tailgate down, revealing their take with its tongue hanging out, blood dripping. I asked a slob hunter neighbor of mine why he hung his deer in the tree in his front yard. His reply? "It's closest to the road." As LT and Paul assert, we indeed are all judged by our appearance and decorum, and until 100% of the population understands how humane and caring most of us are, we must be diligent in representing each other as such. Driving around with exposed dead, alive, dry, or wetted animals or sporting dirty, unkempt clothes with a Coors Light cap may endear you to certain pocket groups, but it will not enhance our collective image in the eyes of the general public. It will, however, promote the notion that trappers are redneck slobs.
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