#80294 - 02/08/07 11:46 AM
Wolf Trapping Manual
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bearbait
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Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 370
Loc: North Pole Alaska
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The new wolf trapping manual and DVD from the Alaska Trappers association are now available. You can get them at the cutting edge in Fairbanks or contact mailto:info@alaskatrappers.org. They are $25 each or $40 for both. I spent most of last night reading the manual and it is extremely well done and thorough.
Edited by bearbait (02/08/07 12:19 PM)
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#80311 - 02/08/07 11:59 AM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Bushman
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 314
Loc: Alberta
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Great I'll definitely check those out. Speaking of wolves check out this sequence taken from a tree stand
Edited by Bushman (02/08/07 12:05 PM)
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#80326 - 02/08/07 12:05 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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takotna
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 496
Loc: Takotna AK
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That is way to cool bushman, did the guy shoot any?
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#80336 - 02/08/07 12:12 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Bushman
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 314
Loc: Alberta
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Bowhunting buddy sent them to me. Probably just sat quietly and hoped he wasn't dessert
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#80381 - 02/08/07 12:39 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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takotna
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 496
Loc: Takotna AK
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How long was it before the wolves noticed your buddy above them?
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#80424 - 02/08/07 01:03 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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victoria vixen
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 609
Loc: Bahamas
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I think I gotta take a shot! If they kill the moose under your tree....then what? How long will you be up there until they finish it off? (LOL)
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#80525 - 02/08/07 02:02 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Rick Phillips
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 393
Loc: SE Idaho
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Bushman, those are some really neat pics! Of course, that moose was old, sick, lame, etc., etc. All of the wolf-huggers down here have given us to understand that they never kill anything healthy.
Bearbait, I went to the website and can't find anything about the wolf DVD. Maybe they don't have it posted yet? Is there a mailing address we can use?
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#80682 - 02/08/07 03:30 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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bearbait
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Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 370
Loc: North Pole Alaska
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Rick, they are not on the website yet, just click on the "contact us" down near the bottom of the ATA site and you can email Angel Knapp or call the cutting edge at 907.452.7477.
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#80898 - 02/08/07 04:58 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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canvasback
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 2090
Loc: The Great State of NEW YORK
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I wish we had 10,000 Wolves in NY.
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#81924 - 02/08/07 10:22 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Rick Phillips
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 393
Loc: SE Idaho
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Amen, Dusty, and amen again!
I see in the papers where the alpha male of one of the packs in Yellowstone has mange. "Oh my, what will we do?" seems to be the general outcry among the bios. I also hear by way of the grapevine that our little resident pack here has it, too. Guess we'll just have to hide and watch.
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#82486 - 02/09/07 10:11 AM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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bcaber
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 21
Loc: Idaho
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Rick, You didn't hear any out cry from the bios that actually manage popualtions or habitat in Idaho, Montana or Wyoming. Its just those protect everything "Parkies". Heck, most of us thought it was great when they got Parvo in 2005 and lost most of the pups.
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#82567 - 02/09/07 11:08 AM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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bcaber
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 21
Loc: Idaho
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Dusty - When I said manage pops and habitat I was talking more about what the wolves are munching. Obviously, the big dogs are still listed and we cannot do much there yet.
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#82725 - 02/09/07 12:43 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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takotna
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 496
Loc: Takotna AK
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Wonder how cute people are going to feel when they start finding steaming piles of pet hair  It's bound to happen, just hope it don't happen to one of their kids.
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#82816 - 02/09/07 01:39 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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northway
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Registered: 01/25/07
Posts: 223
Loc: Tok, Alaska
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Unfortunately, those people think it is "real" wildlife, just like on the Disney movie. And then you have a world famous author who "dramatizes" wildlife and makes it all sound so lovable and "humanizes" animals to so many readers who have no clue. No wonder what it is so tough to get support for what we do? I refuse to read his articles or books any longer.
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#82844 - 02/09/07 01:56 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Hupurest
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 3905
Loc: Las anchorage
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I read that article in alaska magazine, I don't buy that trash rag anymore, it is only for them outsiders, not anything to do with us. Tht article was crap, someone else caught a black wolf and everyone was flipping out because they thought it was romeo, got a reward to catch them, it says in the article that part of its area is in an open area for hunting, trapping. I am surprised no one hasn't whacked it yet.
hopefully he will eat a few more $500+ dogs,then they can all see how cute and cuddely they made it.
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#82962 - 02/09/07 03:07 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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WhiskeyJack
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 270
Loc: Alberta
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fellow sent me this link to let us know the "rest of the story"
http://www.isleroyalewolf.org:80/photo_ess/pe_EP_kills_moose.htm
I took a look at the ATA website I was not expecting to see a Playmate of the Month link, but hay nice beaver...for Alaska
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#83165 - 02/09/07 05:30 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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amtrapper
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 579
Loc: Hardin , Montana
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Well as for the Wolf here in my little part of Montana they still haven't figured out what was killing all those sheep in the Jordan area and are still hoping it was a ferral hybred ? Imagine that one will ya , All I know for sure is the wolf that visited my snaring area last year didn't make a return trip this season . That or I missed seeing its tracks . After my fur sells Put me down for a copy of the manual and DVD . Just in case there is more information to learn that wasn't covered in the class in Miles City a couple of years ago .
Best Wishes , amtrapper
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#83373 - 02/09/07 07:17 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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snowman
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 3286
Loc: Michigan
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Geesh you guys...
That wasn't a wolf, that was a really big mouse.
That's what they eat...mice. I read it in a Fowat book.
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#87880 - 02/12/07 05:10 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Pete in Frbks
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 539
Loc: Fairbanks, Alaska
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The Wolf Manual and the Wolf DVD are now officially for sale by ATA.
As Bearbait says, they are $25 (+ $5 S&H)for either, or the best deal is BOTH for $40 (+ $5 S&H.)
To pay by check or M.O., send them to the ATA address: P.O. Box 82177, Fairbanks, AK 99708. To pay by credit card, call the ATA retail store in Fairbanks at 907-457-1774 during regular business hours. (By that I mean regular business hours in the ALASKA time zone!)
I am not particularly objective about these items, since I have a lot of dang hours invested in editing the manual and a lot of time dealing with the DVD project as well.
But I can assure you that these are both incredibly well done products! A ton of time went into picking the brains of some of the top wolf trappers in Alaska. We have been working on the production of the manual for several years. The interviews took a lot of time. But WOW, it was worth it!
I wish there had been something like these when I first came into the country and wanted to try and learn to trap wolves. I could have saved myself a ton of time and money (learning some of the info the hard way...!)
I honestly think that anyone can learn enough to have a reasonable chance to catch a wolf with the info in these products. And if you are already an experienced wolf trapper, there are a few handy tricks of the trade that you will find useful too.
Pete
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#88690 - 02/13/07 05:39 AM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Alan McKenzie
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 155
Loc: Western Australia
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G'day Pete.
Dont supose you have an email address for ATA so as I can order the manual and DVD..
Getting a bit of rain on the east coast so it will be green by the time you get there.
AL
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#89075 - 02/13/07 10:37 AM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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bearbait
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Registered: 01/03/07
Posts: 370
Loc: North Pole Alaska
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Alan, go to the ATA website and click on "contact us at", down towards the bottom.
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#89098 - 02/13/07 10:51 AM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Rick Phillips
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 393
Loc: SE Idaho
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Alan, did you get those fires under control? Looked pretty grim from the pics you posted.
Rick
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#89639 - 02/13/07 05:44 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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TrapperDownunder
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 22
Loc: Brisbane , Queensland, Austral...
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Alan,
We got about 3 inches of rain hear in some areas more! Set up two dog sets Monday before a big storm, checked them in the rain yesterday, all washed out as it was raining I didn't reset! This morning had a 9 month old Juv. Female. Man that trap was exposed..LOL Who said females are smart!!
Regards,
Ed
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#89783 - 02/13/07 06:42 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Alan McKenzie
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 155
Loc: Western Australia
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Thanks Bearbait,have done.
Rick P,yes finally got them out,lost 16 houses,1000's round bales of hay,livestock ??? and 100's of miles of fencing.
No lives lost in our area .
Ed,good to see you have finally got rain,what out that the Mary River dont flood again.
That 9 month old female must have been dingo as that fits in with the breeding season.
I caught a big male dog like that up at Eukey except that my trap started of in a dry wash,had some rain which covered the trap with 6 inches of water.
On my way home from Stanthorpe I drove past the trap site and here is this big male dog up to his belly in the water in my trap.
Al
Edited by Alan McKenzie (02/13/07 06:44 PM)
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#89789 - 02/13/07 06:44 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual *DELETED*
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Hupurest
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 3905
Loc: Las anchorage
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#89804 - 02/13/07 06:52 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Alan McKenzie
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 155
Loc: Western Australia
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Hupurest,if you mean cats,I have been using 1.75 os cs Dukes with great success.
I also use the Victor 1.5 cs but probably only have 3-4 left in working order.
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#89823 - 02/13/07 07:02 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Hupurest
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 3905
Loc: Las anchorage
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nah, them sugar cane toad things, that ooze that yellow poison puss. Saw it on discovery channel. can you snare kangaroo's
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#89847 - 02/13/07 07:12 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Alan McKenzie
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 155
Loc: Western Australia
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The cane toads can very easily be trapped in cage traps with a light attached however it is not viable .
Of a night using a spotlight you can pick up a thousand or more without to much effort.
Yes it is very easy to snare roo's,usually on a fence line where they push under the bottom or second wire.
Feral pigs follow the same trails so after a while you have a well worn pad with a damaged fence,so setting a snare is easy.
As kids we used to snare them using fencing wire.
None of the fancy 1x19 or 7x7 ect was available.
Al
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#89861 - 02/13/07 07:18 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Hupurest
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 3905
Loc: Las anchorage
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you get money for picking up all those toads???
is it legal to snare roo's?? mybuddy has a freind over there and they go around and shoot the crap out of em, throw em in a freezer truck and sell the meat. I think he said they got a couple hundred in a few nights, crocdile dundee style, 223 and spot lights.
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#89936 - 02/13/07 07:53 PM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Alan McKenzie
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 155
Loc: Western Australia
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No money for toads .
Roo carcases are worth between .65 cents and $1-00 per kilogram.
Al
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#90628 - 02/14/07 10:33 AM
Re: Wolf Trapping Manual
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Pete in Frbks
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Registered: 12/28/06
Posts: 539
Loc: Fairbanks, Alaska
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And about that Wolf Trapping Manual.....! Cane toads notwithstanding.
Someone on the Wolf Manual thread on the main forum had mentioned that he had contacted the ATA retail outlet (Cutting Edge, in Fairbanks) and they had not received the merchandise.
I just checked and copies of both the manual and the DVD were dropped off at the C-E last night.
It is now completely safe to send in your money!
Pete
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