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#62474 - 01/28/07 09:54 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
fishermann222 Moderator Offline
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Victoria I don't know if you should be putting those words that Craig O'Gorman said to you in a public forum. He may have said that to you privately, but I doubt he wants all trappers nationwide to read it.
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#62510 - 01/28/07 10:26 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: fishermann222]
Rick Phillips Offline
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Loc: SE Idaho
Victoria, I don't claim to be an expert and maybe you can give me some tips; but in my experience trapping in snow in subzero temps is a snap compared to conditions where you get freeze, thaw, freeze, thaw, blow, snow, more freeze, thaw...... That's what I have to deal with here. If I can get a good cold snap that stays down around 20 below for a week or two, I grin ear to ear!
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#62585 - 01/28/07 11:37 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Rick Phillips]
piperniner Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 586
Loc: Alaska
Rick : Amen. A whole lot of us in Ak. this year are dealing with heavy snow after heavy snow. Spending the whole time just digging out and resetting. Sounds like you will be wolf hunting soon.
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#62599 - 01/28/07 11:58 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: piperniner]
Rick Phillips Offline
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They keep saying they're going to have a hunting season on them: the new governor even said he wants the first tag. They have also told us that there will be no wolf trapping....at least for a few years. IMHA there won't be very many wolves harvested by ground hunting, so they'll keep right on increasing and spreading out. Sometimes I think our government officials were absent the day brains were handed out.
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#62605 - 01/29/07 12:17 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Rick Phillips]
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Loc: Alaska
Rick : Funny coincidence. My former trapping partner just retired as a game warden up here and hired on with your state as a conservation officer. Can't give up what he loves I guess. The poachers better watch out, this guy lives the job and made the most cases of any officer each year.
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#62612 - 01/29/07 12:43 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: piperniner]
Rick Phillips Offline
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That's cool, piperniner! Do you know which region he is working out of? Ken was telling me about one of his friends who had moved down here and was going to be helping with F&G's wolf management section. Same guy? I was excited to hear there might be someone involved with that process who had some practical wolf experience.
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#62898 - 01/29/07 11:25 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Rick Phillips]
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Loc: Alaska
Don't think it is the same guy. He will be south of Lewiston and has not moved yet. Was in enforcement and been trapping since 12. Good wolf trapper.
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#62907 - 01/29/07 11:41 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
victoria vixen Offline
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Are any of you Alaskan trappers saving your lynx, wolf or wolverine glands? I'm really interested if you're wanting to sell any.
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#62908 - 01/29/07 11:41 AM Re: Lynx sets *DELETED* [Re: Alaskacajun]
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#62978 - 01/29/07 12:27 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: victoria vixen]
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Registered: 12/26/06
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Loc: Las anchorage
this is what mine looks like. The lynx followed my trail for over 1/2 mile,(i drag beaver behind the machine) right to the set, came to within 20 yds, downwind of it and kept on going. so I added another HUGE hunk of beaver, a duck and more wings.
What am I doing wrong???
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#63337 - 01/29/07 05:48 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
victoria vixen Offline
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Loc: Bahamas
Have you ever thought of using pine bough's to keep the snow from blowing in? Or make it a "walk through", (open on both ends)? How about a bit larger and use vertical guide sticks on all 4 corners of the trap? Can you use a snowshoe hare or parts (head) as bait? I like a strip of fur with a huge glass eye glued on. The kind they sell at hobby shops or taxidermist use. That way when a cat sees that, he has to have it! Just a few thoughts. I've never trapped for lynx but I've caught plenty of bobcats that way!
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#63438 - 01/29/07 06:32 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: victoria vixen]
Dusty Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
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Loc: North Pole, AK
Hup - that looks a whole lot like my cubbies. Anything more substantial and I catch bunnies.

What you're doing wrong is asking them to walk 20 yards. Cats are lazy when it comes to a hunk of frozen bait. If I don't have to duck a little to miss my trap with a ski, it's too far off the trail. Some of them won't take the extra one step either - that's where snares come in.
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#63577 - 01/29/07 07:43 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Dusty]
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Loc: Michigan
Hey Lynx trapper
If it keeps coming back with in the 20 yd,s why not put a blind set down ther thats down wind or do like some one else said plant a snare down ther oand if it is on the ICe spud a pole hole and plant a tree to hook the snare to the pole will freeze in and your good to go . Hope that help you Good luck
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#63697 - 01/29/07 08:43 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: DannelBoone]
otterman Moderator Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Loc: SW Alaska
I dont have lynx nor alot of reabbits but do use alot of spruce branches for cubbies for various things. I also do not have many rabbits but have found that most spruce trees have alot of dead branches that would accomplish the same thing. Is it the cover or the green branches that attracs the rabbits? If it is the green branches maybe using dead branches that have just dropped their needles would slove the issue rabbit issue maybe?? If it is the cover thing no matter what you do the rabbits are probably going to use the cubbie I believe. Tell me if my assumptions are worng
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#64108 - 01/30/07 08:29 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: otterman]
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Nevada
I've got a request for you guys, sure would appreciate it if one of you would post a closeup picture of a Lynx foot, top and bottom. Just for comparison with a bobcat's. I've always heard that the bottoms are covered with fur.

Thanks, Bill
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#64379 - 01/30/07 12:13 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: billcat]
Hupurest Offline
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Loc: Las anchorage
It was on its trail from last week, but this week he, she , it went a little off. It has been using the area, and numerous tracks, seems to be every 3 or 4 days, but not one defined trail. the other problem I have is the amount of people using the area, I would love to have it more on the edge and flagging tape etc, but would rather not catch one than have it stolen.
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#64409 - 01/30/07 01:06 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
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Loc: Nome, Alaska
Billcat - Our fox have fur covered bottoms of their feet.
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#64415 - 01/30/07 01:10 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskan]
Hupurest Offline
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Loc: Las anchorage
there is also the arctic salmon that is covered with hair too.
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#67671 - 02/01/07 02:14 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
victoria vixen Offline
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Posts: 609
Loc: Bahamas
Hupurest, you might try a single feather on fishing line (a couple of split-shot sinkers to keep it from blowing too much and wrapping around other twigs). If you put it just above "eye level", you might find it may attract the lynx without too much people problem. Are you using a scent (LDC) as well?
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#67672 - 02/01/07 02:14 PM Re: Lynx sets *DELETED* [Re: Hupurest]
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#67680 - 02/01/07 02:20 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: victoria vixen]
Hupurest Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
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Loc: Las anchorage
I have a wings, half wings, single feathers, hanging around from right in front of the cubbie, to 30 yds out, and I used them so it would not attract the people.
I do not have asplit shot on them, that is a good idea.
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#67961 - 02/01/07 04:43 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
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I had a guy tell me today that he used catnip and the lynx went crazy. It rolled in it, pissed on it, clawed it and never stepped in the trap....he forgot his guide sticks. I think I'll try some this weekend.
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#67969 - 02/01/07 04:47 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Kusko]
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I was always meaning to get it, and I was going to also try and mix up a bait with ground castors and catnip..
cat probably got all doped up and forgot what he was doing...
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#68045 - 02/01/07 05:27 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Hupurest]
victoria vixen Offline
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Curious where you get your catnip. True catnip is very expensive. Most chemical plants run it (steam distilled) at several hundred dollar per ounce. Artificial catnip is worthless (in my opinion) as a cat lure. So, I just though maybe you had a inside on some thing the rest of us didn't know about. Is it in a liquid form and do you have a problem with the odor getting out? Down here catnip grows wild but dies at summers end.
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#68065 - 02/01/07 05:38 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: victoria vixen]
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I'm going to get mine at the Pet Store tonight.

That's funny hupurest! We have drunken marten on the Yukon and doped up cats in the Kilbucks. \:\) \:\)

Ethically, is cat nip an unfair advantage if the cats are doped up when they step in the trap??? J/K!! \:\)
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#68105 - 02/01/07 05:57 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Kusko]
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Loc: Michigan
If any of you need catnip, it wont happen this winter, but try to remember to ask me next summer... It grows like crazy around my house. I used to dry it in the shed for the cats.

I might be able to extract the oil usin some fancy science stuff (steam distillation, as victoria pointed out...if you have access to fresh catnip, i can give you a LOT easier method using liquid butane), but I've never tried (i have however tried with other herbs).

It'd be an interesting addition to a lure.

interesting:

catnip oil

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Ethically, is cat nip an unfair advantage if the cats are doped up when they step in the trap??? J/K!! \:\)

Yuo may want to add a couple extra swivels to that trap if they are rollin round a lot \:\) And a little extra bait for when they get the munchies.


Edited by snowman (02/01/07 06:07 PM)

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#70368 - 02/02/07 10:40 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
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Registered: 01/22/07
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Loc: new mexico
hey guys I really appreaciate the pictures of the sets.. they help out allot
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#72981 - 02/04/07 04:31 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: NMtrapper]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 479
Loc: Nome, Ak.
Seen a neat idea in the NTA mag, American Trapper. Tom Krause, in Wy. showed a pic from his bobcat line where he uses small bells hung from string near his set. The sound arouses the cats curiosity. He buys the bells at hobby/craft stores. I'd say that idea would work on lynx.
I'm a firm believer in getting as much good info on trapping as possible. Any of you guys relying solely on these internet sites to learn about trapping are missing some good stuff!
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#73283 - 02/04/07 06:36 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: martentrapper]
otterman Moderator Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Loc: SW Alaska
MT raises a good point there are several good magazines out there along with the internet. I have never tried it but I have read that a couple CDs hanging so the can click each other along with the sun bouncing off the shiney side helps draw cats too like I said no experince with it but read it someplace who knows where
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#75295 - 02/05/07 08:48 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Tazlina, Alaska
I can't believe this lynx thread has so little interest, but it is doing a little better than the wolverine thread (which also seems odd to me). Lynx numbers are definitely increasing in the Copper Basin. Are they not abundant on anyone elses line this year?

Just to throw in my two cents worth, I do not put much weight in cubby size. Mine are typically rudimentary, consisting of a few leaning sticks against a tree (sometimes just a little brush)and some well placed guide sticks. Essentially, I place my trap in the path of least resistance to the bait (i.e., the lynx can get to the bait from the side, but it typically comes in the easiest, clearest way, and steps on the trap).

I also like to use snare sets. I typically put some bait off the trail, make a trail going to the bait, and hang a snare in the trail. I try to make a big disturbance on the snowmachine trail to make sure the lynx stops and investigates. Making two paths from this disturbance point to the bait works well with a snare in each path. This set is way easier to make than a leghold cubby. It is my feeling that this set works better than a cubby like set this time of year.

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#75652 - 02/06/07 12:43 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: guloboy]
Rick Phillips Offline
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Loc: SE Idaho
When I was a kid, my uncle was a government trapper here in this area. He trapped a lot of bobcats in the wintertime, and one of his favorite sets was to cut the side out of a Prince Albert tobacco can; the flat ones that fit in your shirt pocket. This gave a shiny side and the painted side with the picture of Prince Albert on it. He would hang it from a light wire under a limb or rock overhang, and set his trap where the cat would step while investigating. He also used rabbitskin flags, and the way I remember it caught about equal numbers on both attractors. I've never tried using CD's, but I'd think they'd be every bit as good as the tobacco can.

My lynx experience is limited compared to bobcats. I caught a few back in the "good old days" about 40 years ago when they were still legal here. I remember selling a great big tom for the princely sum of $12 and thinking I'd really done great because bobcats were bringing about $8 then. My father-in-law had shot that one with a 30-06 while he was deer hunting and gave it to me. I put in most of the afternoon sewing him back together. LOL.

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#75840 - 02/06/07 09:18 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: Alaskacajun]
DLM Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 607
Loc: Maine
As far as I know about the only laminated traps used much here in Maine are the smaller traps used for coyote, such as #1 3/4 & #2 coil springs. Alot of guys like the smaller traps for dirt hole sets before the snows come. After that any good quality #3 works.
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#106611 - 02/24/07 01:43 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: DLM]
guloboy Offline
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Tazlina, Alaska
Here is my season to date pic. I had to take it now because with the current fur prices, I felt it necessary to diversify my buyers sooner than later. I do not need Pappa's or NAFA deciding whether or not I get a septic system put in this summer if you know what I mean.

Anyways, as you can tell, I concentrated on lynx this year, and had a blast doing it. Already cannot wait till next year, and hope I can find time to try and entice some gulo gulos into sticking their heads into a 330.

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#106614 - 02/24/07 01:53 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: guloboy]
SEwaterboy Offline
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 124
Loc: SE Alaska
guloboy-
Cool picture. That's impressive. We don't have cats around here, but they really interest me. The only cat I trapped was a wildy kitten that had a cool bobcat-lookin' hide and he's yowlin at the door to be let out right now.
I was wondering, not to pry or anything, but why was it you didn't go for any gluttons this year? From the other thread you seem to be pretty proficient at that too.

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#106620 - 02/24/07 02:14 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: guloboy]
Rick Phillips Offline
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Loc: SE Idaho
Guloboy, that's a great pic! Lots of nice cats, and great put-up on all of the fur! Boy, that's a pretty cross fox! Congratulations, and good luck on the fickle market.
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#106622 - 02/24/07 02:22 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: SEwaterboy]
guloboy Offline
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Tazlina, Alaska
We took a break because we caught 8 gulos last year, five of which were females. We thought we would "rest" the line. It is also a grind to run the gulo line we do; it is a long ways from the house, a long way on snogo to the traps, and there is consistently inclemental weather on that that line (lots of snow and wind). I have some photos of us digging out traps that would make you laugh.
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#106624 - 02/24/07 02:36 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: guloboy]
SEwaterboy Offline
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Registered: 02/08/07
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Loc: SE Alaska
Makes sense. What do you guys typically consider a 'safe' harvest ratio for your personal areas? I've never caught one(made a few sets)but it is interesting. On the islands here they are few and far between. I actually found a wolf-killed one this year as well as saw a live one on the beach. Accordingly to F and G I probably saw half the population of the island! The mainland, a short distance away, is actually one of the top producers down here. In fact FandG is doing a wolvy study right now over there and alot of specimens from the state are being sent here. Last count they had caught four but three chewed their way out of the box. They were using too soft of wood. It is an interesting study and I'm looking forward to reading the results. They have bait stations set up with cameras hoping to get one on film feeding. They haven't succeeded yet, but I guess they got some good footage of other stuff eating. Apparently there was an eagle hanging off the bait upside down like a bat chewing away.

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#106625 - 02/24/07 02:54 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: SEwaterboy]
guloboy Offline
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Tazlina, Alaska
Oh yeah, Audrey Magaoun and her husband Pat Valkenburg are involved with that. Last I heard they were going to switch to a PVC culvert trap, one with no sides for a skunkbear to chew on.

I have no rules with the wolverine sex ratio. Biologically, males are more dispensable than females, and we thought five females in one season was a bit much. Who knows though, the area we trap might be teaming with wolverine right now. We had planned on checking it out this winter, but have yet to find the time to do it.

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#106850 - 02/24/07 09:39 AM Re: Lynx sets [Re: guloboy]
SEwaterboy Offline
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 124
Loc: SE Alaska
Yeah, you are right. I was just in there getting a wolf sealed and I noticed the "new" trap they had sitting there. It was a tube of some sort, I don't know, I got to telling wolf stories and completely forgot to go over and check out the trap. I think the study is on some kind of suspention right now due to the bay freezing in. I don't know, I talked to the guy for a minute, but it sounded like the wife was the one heading up the operation. I haven't got to talk to her yet. They have a lot of help from local guys too so they should eventually be able to get some jewelry on more than just the one female.
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#107009 - 02/24/07 12:18 PM Re: Lynx sets [Re: SEwaterboy]
takotna Offline
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Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 496
Loc: Takotna AK
Nice pic guloboy, hope you get your septic in.
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