#190696 - 04/27/07 04:44 AM
Re: BAD FEEDBACK
[Re: huntinglonewolf]
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frankb_ks
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1076
Loc: Olathe, Kansas
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That is not good, and perhaps my good experience with him was an anomaly and not typical of his ethics, but I guess I would have to think that if two adults reach an agreement, and one does not follow through with it, there should be some safeguards to prevent that, and the ensuing hard feelings. For example, I when making a trade anymore, I do not send my end of the trade out until I am VERY clear on what I expect in return & when, and have gotten a delivery confirmation # from the other party proving that he has at least gone so far as to post his end of the trade. Buying and selling things is a bit more complicated I guess. What is that they say about money being the root of all evil(?) Simple barter was for sure a better means of exchange in my opinion.
Be Well, All,
Frank
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#190795 - 04/27/07 08:39 AM
Re: BAD FEEDBACK
[Re: JerryD]
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hunter82
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 489
Loc: Minnesota
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#191424 - 04/28/07 09:05 AM
Re: BAD FEEDBACK
[Re: huntinglonewolf]
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mn_minkman
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 644
Loc: Minnesota
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Jim Roberts
2887 Ivan st
Harrison,MI 48625
heres his number 989-539-8361
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#207395 - 05/19/07 09:33 AM
Re: BAD FEEDBACK
[Re: whitetailaddict]
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bigpat
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Registered: 03/23/07
Posts: 502
Loc: New York
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Here's an update on my deal with Matt Smith. I posted here back in early April. He Pm'ed me on 4-11-07, wanting to resolve this. I pm'ed him the first of May, he responded 5-02-07 saying he shipped that day. I still haven't received it. He did'nt stick me too bad, only a couple bottles of lure. Now it looks like he stuck someone else. I would definitely not deal with him again. I would also recommend anyone else be careful dealing with him.
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#211419 - 05/24/07 12:20 PM
Re: BAD FEEDBACK
[Re: BigBob]
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frankb_ks
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1076
Loc: Olathe, Kansas
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Hey BigBob,
I think I need to try to straighten out a misunderstanding that seems to have occured about my dealings with "GreatWhiteHunter". I have only had one actual deal with him, and it went as agreed upon. I cannot even remember right now, but it seems like I traded him some coilsprings for some jumps. What may have caused the confusion is that I tried to help him with some trouble he was having with "Kawliga". The following is a pm that I sent Matt, that pretty well summarizes the situation and his role in it. Please understand that I am NOT taking sides in a trade disagreement that I have no part in.
Thank You & Be Well, All,
Frank
frankb_ks
trapper
Registered: 24/12/06
Posts: 521
Loc: Olathe, Kansas
Hey Matt,
Well, I guess what it amounts to is that you need to be VERY careful when agreeing to deals that you CAN follow through with an agreement BEFORE you make the agreement. If you cannot afford to send your end of the trade, you must NOT make it. You also MUST not make trades with other peoples stuff, so that you cannot get caught up in someone else "changing their mind". From what you have said, you were somewhat a victim of circumstance, but even more to the point, you were also a victim of your own poor judgement. Young people often receive a fair amount of criticism here on the forum, and almost invariably, that criticism is the result of poor judgment and poor decision making on the part of that person, or some young person or the other.
The way my name got drawn into the fray, I suspect, is that I had tried to help you with your problems with Kawliga, because I was concerned that my "good deed" of sending him traps without a firm agreement from him on trading for one of his walking sticks was going to result in me being cheated out of my traps. In that instance, I guess you could say that I demonstrated poor judgment myself.
That is my take on the situation. If you want, I will copy this and post it on the bad feedback thread.
Thank You & Be Well,
Frank
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#212206 - 05/25/07 06:44 AM
Re: BAD FEEDBACK
[Re: BigBob]
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frankb_ks
trapper
Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 1076
Loc: Olathe, Kansas
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Hey Bob,
I have a couple of bird dogs, but could always use a curmudgeon or two I reckon. Got any you want to trade off???... ...
Be Well,
Frank
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#231037 - 06/15/07 01:59 AM
Re: BAD FEEDBACK
[Re: frankb_ks]
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Clinton
trapper
Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 246
Loc: Joplin, MO
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Clinton, I am not sure what the problem is, but I just had a VERY satisfying trade with trapperbud. I will definitely trade with him again.
If a man will not keep his word then he is no man to me.
Funny how you seem to defend all the wrong people on here. If a thief robs your neighbor he is still ok because he didn't rob you. That is the same thing you are saying in all your posts. Keep trading with scum and you will get yours someday.
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#231302 - 06/15/07 01:55 PM
Re: BAD FEEDBACK
[Re: frankb_ks]
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Clinton
trapper
Registered: 12/22/06
Posts: 246
Loc: Joplin, MO
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Clinton, I just tell it like it is. If you are upset over a trade, I cannot help that. I CAN tell other folks that your disappointment is not what I experienced. Perhaps in order to clear it up, you could tell everyone exactly the sequence of the pm's you and trapperbud exchanged and the timing of them, or better yet, copy them here on the thread. If you cannot do that, I have no time to argue with you and have nothing further to say to you.
Be Well,
Frank
Apparently you do not comprehend the difference between a Bad Feedback and a Good Feedback board. You're posting in the wrong topic. Besides, who made you the self appointed guardian of trapperbud. I could care less if you have time to argue with me. I never asked for your mouth anyways. When trapperbud becomes man enough to address me, I will answer him. I have all the pm's with times saved.
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#234430 - 06/19/07 10:52 AM
Re: BAD FEEDBACK
[Re: cottonfoot]
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trapperbud
trapper
Registered: 01/24/07
Posts: 189
Loc: Blacksburg, VA
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Clinton,
You make your own judgements on me if you like but I am telling you and the whole trapperman.com community the truth. I did not sell these knives out from under you and if you don't believe me than you are no man to me. I hold to my word on the first person that contacts me. As I have already told you I do admit that I should not have jumped the gun on PineyJohn to not come through on the deal which is when I contacted you. The only reason that I let John hold to his end of the deal after the long delay is that he had a death in his family and since I have gone through the same thing recently, I know how it is when you are not right beside a computer and can not message people back right when they respond to you. If you would like why don't you message PineyJohn and ask him when he messaged me about the knives. I think that you will see that he did in fact contact me before you did on the knives and that is why he is the buyer and not you. It may seem to you like I sold them out from under you but all I can tell you is this, A man does not lie to a man. If you can't honor my word and the actions that I took in selling these knives than I have no more to say to you. All I can tell you is that is the way things worked out and that they should have worked out, and I don't think that I man can expect another man to do anymore than his best and to tell the truth. I did not recieve any additional messages from you on the knives since our first contact. I deleted your post to me, which I probably should not have done, and did not think to drop you a line back to let you know the situation. Most of the time I follow through with anybody and everybody that contacts me but it did slip my mind to write you a note back to let you know the situation that I was put in. I hope that you will understand the situation as I have described it and quit telling everybody that I do not honor my word. I honor everything that I sell and the fellow trappers that deal with me. I think that anybody that has ever bought traps or other hunting items from me will back me up on that. This was a wierd sequence of events that happened with these knives but I assure you that Piney (John) was the rightful and first buyer of the knives. No money ever exchanged hands on this deal between you and I and I don't think that you are out of anything but your time on this forum arguing with me and Frank. If anybody ever has any doubts about me just contact any of my other buyers: Frank, Piney (John), Junkman202, and many others that I can not even remember). I am not a braggart but I take pride in my honest and forthright transactions on the trapperman.com site. Anybody that would like to say otherwise speak up. Thank you
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