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Fleshing Knife Sharpness #987078
11/13/08 11:01 AM
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I'm new to trapping and bought some wire stretchers and a fleshing knife last week. I took a coon out of the freezer to practice on before I attempt my cat and fox. WOW - Fleshing is not as easy as it looks....LOL. I'm thinking I need to sharpen my fleshing knife a little or maybe just put a little more rear end into it???????

What do you guys think?

How sharp should a fleshing knife be?

I have a video called Practical Fur Handling I bought last year and I'm going to review it again. All I can say is I have a lot of respect for you guys who trap and put up hundreds of animals each season. That is a ton of work. Hats off to ya!

Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: ArnieTX] #987094
11/13/08 11:12 AM
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OK, I had similar trouble last year when I bought 3 different knives. First off, what kind of knife did you get? Second, I think I know the problem. You need to run the back of a skinning knife lightly across your fleshing knife from handle to handle. This will curl the sharp edge over slightly, which in turn makes the knife want to dig towards the leather when you are fleshing. If your knife is relatively sharp, you do not have to push very hard to make it work. Your knife should be fairly flat with the pelt at like a 10-20 degree angle. Use a slight left-right or right to left motion taking short strokes with your leading hand being slightly ahead of the following hand. Once you have ruined 3 or 4 you will get the hang of it and take longer strokes and you will know what you can get away with. For fox and cats, there is very little fleshing to do. On fox, the "armpit" behind the front legs is about all that needs to be done with a fleshing knife, the rest can be pulled off using your thumb and a fairly dull knife (pinch the fat/flesh between your thumb and the knife blade and pull it away from the leather). You really need to get the hang fleshing some coon without tearing them to pieces before you attempt any high dollar furs. Course, this year you could probably practice on about anything!

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Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: trapperkeck] #987119
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Thanks-

I bought a 16"x2" #3 fleshing knife from Minn Trapline.

I let my coon pelt thaw out over night. I really had to put a lot of pressure on the knife to get the fat to come off. As I push forward I kinda move the blade from left to right like the fellow in my video. I watched the video again a little while ago and his coon fleshed out a lot easier than mine.(+ plus he's proably fleshed a billion of them..LOL) You think it needs sharpened a little? Is sharpening part of the regular maintainance of a fleshing knife?

The good news is is I have plenty of coons running around to practice on. I'll leave my fox and cat in the freezer till I master the coon.

Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: ArnieTX] #987154
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Ok - the more I watch this fellow in the video flesh out different critters, the more I realize my knife is dull. He is not leaning on it as hard as I had to. I'll hit it on my sharpening wheels and see what happens.

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Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: ArnieTX] #987178
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Some knives are supposed to be razor sharp for cutting meat and gristle from around the head, and some are supposed to be dull with no edge at all to push the fat off the pelt. Better get some more info before grinding on it.


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Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: ArnieTX] #987184
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BE CAREFUL! - Moving the blade from left to right may cause CUTS in the hide if not done right.

For coons the ONLY part you need a very sharp knife for in the neck from the ears to about where the frotn legs are. A tip here use you skinning knife to LIGHTLY score a line just below the ears, and use that to start your fleshing.

It is more about pressure and angle. Just push down with more muscle till you see the hide then push down the beam.


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Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: MikeTraps2] #987325
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I wish we knew what kind of knife you have, it would help!


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Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: MikeTraps2] #987346
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the coons i have fleshed this year have came pretty clean and i dont have my fleshing knife razor sharp just sharp enough to get the fat started then most of the time i can just push the fat off


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Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: slick_ tail] #987360
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Another trick is to make one side or both sides of the knife sharp and leave the middle of the blade a little duller to push fat.


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Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: trapperkeck] #987361
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my knife has a sharp side and a blunt side


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Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: slick_ tail] #987377
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Same here slick tail...


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Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: trapperkeck] #988518
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Knife description posted in 3rd reply.

I put it on the wheel tonight and gave it a little more edge. I saw a video of someone fleshing on the internet sometime back and they would use the blade side to get it started and as the fat built up they would flip the knife over to the dull side and "bulldozer" it off.

I'm going try a few more coons before I attempt my bocat or fox.

Thanks for the advice.

Re: Fleshing Knife Sharpness [Re: ] #989249
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Anyone remember the "bevel side up or down" discussion on fleshing knife use featuring Hal Sullivan last year or maybe two.Had some good drawings that might help here. Was it archived?

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get yourself a Zepf fleshing knife and you will be very satisfied. You can gently touch it up with a steel and it works nicely.


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