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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8135613
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Grandpa was infantry in the Pacific. He had less than pleasant things to say about MacArthur. Pretty sure he would have agreed with the firing squad comment.

Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8135850
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To bad you can;t ask Admiral Nimitz or President Truman


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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: jeff karsten] #8135855
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I think Truman did the right thing by relieving MacArthur.

Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: jeff karsten] #8135867
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Marshal pushed for MacArthur to receive the MOH, which Roosevelt went along with. Reasons cited included wanting to honor Mac to negate any Japanese propaganda from him being ordered to evacuate. He received the honor on 4-1-42. Bataan fell on 4-9-42, Corregidor on 5-6-42.

Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8135876
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Originally Posted by Finster
I don't really think that MacArthur deserved the MOH. I'm not seeing it. I believe it was a political award and is a slap in the face to those that earned it. What say you?



Compared to other recipients of the medal I would say he did not deserve it.

I am absolutely certain he did not deserve the DFC he was given. I know hundreds of guys who deserved that more than MacArthur did


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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: jeff karsten] #8135894
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Originally Posted by jeff karsten
To bad you can;t ask Admiral Nimitz or President Truman


Nimitz, Halsey, Spruance, McCain; Admirals all who held MacArthur in contempt.

He was described as an insubordinate, arrogant, pompous arse by those who knew
& worked with him and those were the good things they had to say about Douglas.

His only redeeming claim to fame was his excellent administration
of the occupation of Japan after their surrender due to his
understanding of Japanese culture.

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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8135940
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Absolutely not, many military scholars agree that, the US could have bypassed the Philippines like Admiral Nimitz wanted to. But, MacArthur need to orchestrate his staged , “I have returned”, photo opp, so he could blow pipe smoke on the beaches of Leyte.
My father fought at the Leyte Gulf landing and in reality it all could have been avoided.
I’m glad Truman fired him.

Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Squash] #8136194
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My dad was in the Red Arrow Division from WI and went overseas in May of 42 and came home October of 45. The landed in Australia after their troop carriers were able to avoid Japanese fighters and bombers at Midway. They worked up through New Guinea and the Phillipines. His unit was on the island when MacArthar returned. The troops stood in the heat and hunmidity for hours waiting and many fainted etc. just for him. He was not disliked by most, he was hated. When Truman fired him it was probably one reason my dad voted Democrat for several years even though he was a strong conservative in most ways.

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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8136431
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No on Medal of Honor for MacArthar ! MacArthar was a pompous butt !


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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Osagan] #8136567
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Originally Posted by Osagian
I think Truman did the right thing by relieving MacArthur.

I think most of his troops would have been thrilled to "Relieve themselves ON Dug Out Doug"!


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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8136595
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No he didn’t deserve it


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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Squash] #8136603
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Originally Posted by Squash
Absolutely not, many military scholars agree that, the US could have bypassed the Philippines like Admiral Nimitz wanted to. But, MacArthur need to orchestrate his staged , “I have returned”, photo opp, so he could blow pipe smoke on the beaches of Leyte.
My father fought at the Leyte Gulf landing and in reality it all could have been avoided.
I’m glad Truman fired him.


I think Admiral Nimitz got us into the battle at Peleliu. He was told repeatedly that the island didn’t matter but went anyway. Lots of marines could have came home instead of dying on that rock. I think he was a decent Admiral but that was a costly mistake.


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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8136653
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With all the years of service he does he earned it ,

Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8136658
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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8136727
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Well he was nominated for the Medal of Honor 3 times, earned two purple hearts, I think 6 silver stars, a couple of bronze stars, and numerous other awards. He served in 4 campaigns WW 1, Mexico, WW 2 and the Korean war. If Truman would have listened to him we wouldn't have the mess we have now with China or Korea. I doubt he could give a hoot about the Medals and as far as leaving the Philippines, how many Generals served on front lines when they were falling and were taken as a POW, That would have be a propaganda and strategic win for the Japs. As a matter of fact he wanted to stay and Roosevelt ordered him out.

Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8136730
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He was an officer above 0-6, so just being that probably got him 3/4 of the medals and ribbons he wore, very similar to what happens today, they sit in a cushy office while their troops bust butt yet get the award.


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Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8136736
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The CIB is the only one that matters.

Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: Finster] #8136740
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He pushed out the bonus army.

Re: Did Douglas MacArthar deserve the MOH? [Re: danvee] #8136816
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Jeeze, danvee,.I agree!,..Imagine that! smirk

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