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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130703
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Not so 49er. Not many years ago, our (local) coyotes were bringing decent $$. Highline westerns were bringing very good $$!

While calling, I mostly used a .17_.204 but my 250 was/ is my truck gun.
Have used Sierras excellent 55s for years. Tried piles of other brands and there is a reason I stuck with them.

However, I feel a bit empty. I've heard from an expert that ONLY cast bullets are suitable for saving fur in a 250.
Sure wish I would have learned this gem of info years ago.

frown

Be interesting to hear his perspective on how those cast bullets performed out of his 250 on fur.

He only deals in FACTS yanno. Many of us are willing to learn.

smile


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130724
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Calling is one thing, truck gun is another.

I dont shoot a 250 only because I've always had a .243. I like the 60 grain sierra's in it.

I started with a 223 for a night gun, moved to a 20 prac and probably going to a 6mm ARC


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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: MJM] #8130737
04/29/24 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MJM
Deer are weak compared to coyotes. You can kill deer with about anything. You would know that if you shot many of them. It takes way more to plant a coyote consistent. I started using my coyote loads to hunt deer and it drops them like a rock. They don't kick, flop or run. They are dead before they hit the ground. Bullet placement is a given with anything.

I've seen a few that amazed me, hit hard but didn't drop right away

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130739
04/29/24 11:26 PM
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Honestly our of a bold gun with the right power getting .22-250 to shoot well enough with cast wouldn't me much of a problem at all really.. and depending on the allow you could tailor them to do whatever linotype would let you push them up to 2500 pretty easy , higher if you knew what you where doing. Right alloy and and speed you can get them to perform more like explosive varmit or more of a FMJ effect....
This was a 63gr I use in my .223 cals I dig out the wet clay berm @100yd... Think this was out of my hornet
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....anyway I'm going back to spectating... Who post makes me happy I don't kill any

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130807
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If you want to hear some experts talk on it head over to PredatorMasters. Tons of info on 22/250 reloading and fur friendly loads. That seems to be the popular caliber amongst coyote killers.

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130925
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Yes I'm sure there is a load/bullet that most times wont blow a hole in a yote. BUT even then I'm sure there is times they do. 22-250 is appealing where you need 200-300 yard shots. PLUS the fur is good on the animal (out west of Ky)
I got a question for the loud mouth and some others. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE EVEN SHOT a cast bullet into a coyote ???? Heck even better how many have shot a cast bullet PERIOD !! Wolfie has for sure. His testing showed pretty good retention ALL my testing and shooting varmits with a cast bullet was before cell phones and forums like this. Yes my sample size of cast on coyotes and foxes is a small one. Easier to just buy a 222 and reloading dies. BUT NOT A SINGLE ONE had a hole in it you could stick a golf ball in. Only one I can remember ever sewing on was my uncle shot a redfox just in front of its right ear . It turned it's head as he shot and messed it's head up.

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130930
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Never shot a cast bullets in my life. No need.

You dove into this topic/ thread with a few CAPITOL words like you usually do to prove how smart you are.

So, how many coyotes have You killed with a 22_250 using cast bullets since you chimed in on this topic?

You sure deflect alot Uncle Cream Puff.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Oakey] #8130956
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Originally Posted by Oakey
My favorite coyote gun is 17 Remington with 25 gr Berger match t.



Most consistent fur friendly combination man has ever developed. Even with light framed bobcats , little to no sewing required . It's just amazing. I dearly miss mine.


Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: bucksnbears] #8131010
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Never shot a cast bullets in my life. No need.

You dove into this topic/ thread with a few CAPITOL words like you usually do to prove how smart you are.

So, how many coyotes have You killed with a 22_250 using cast bullets since you chimed in on this topic?

You sure deflect alot Uncle Cream Puff.



There you showed your knowledge of input. ZERO . Like most of the times you mouth off when I post something.
Won't you stick to something you know.
Molesting pumpkins
Living alone in the woods because no one can stand you
Lying about how many TROPHY white tails your pushing What's it up too now ? 5 or 600 I'm sure !!

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8131015
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I would bet you can go on a lot of coyote hunting sites and you won't see much about using cast bullets. You can not get the muzzle velocity you need to make them effective. You have to get up around 3400 fps and up to have a good fur friendly coyote bullet. The slower it goes the more runners you will have.


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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8131044
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If cast, solid, or FMJ style bullets were the best, we’d all be shooting them.

But it’s not 1973 anymore.

Bullet technology and options have changed dramatically.




And with the current market, why pigeon hole yourself with fur friendliness? They aren’t worth the time to put up. Keep throwing low value fur into the pipeline and they’re gonna keep paying you little to nothing!

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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8131055
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I'm just saying pictures and actual data points would make this whole conversation alot better instead of a bunch of chest pounding,back handed comments and talking about what you have done did or do in vague terms.... At least I can go on on boones FB page and see all the stuff he's done ....

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Boone Liane] #8131072
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
If cast, solid, or FMJ style bullets were the best, we’d all be shooting them.

But it’s not 1973 anymore.

Bullet technology and options have changed dramatically.




And with the current market, why pigeon hole yourself with fur friendliness? They aren’t worth the time to put up. Keep throwing low value fur into the pipeline and they’re gonna keep paying you little to nothing!



That's valid. If a well furred coyote could pay for a tank of gas , it would make for a different discussion. There's been more than a few scenarios where I spooked off the coyotes hoping for bobcats .


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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8131078
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I can't share my cast experience.
No picture page or blog or 20 yr old here to do that.
Was thinking of getting into 30 cal cast
but dang sure not asking here.
And like already said,
why with a life supply of jacketed in stock.

When I was young, picture sharing
with strangers was called bragging.
Times change I guess.
Just sayin.





Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Wright Brothers] #8131081
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
I can't share my cast experience.
No picture page or blog or 20 yr old here to do that.
Was thinking of getting into 30 cal cast
but dang sure not asking here.
And like already said,
why with a life supply of jacketed in stock.

When I was young, picture sharing
with strangers was called bragging.
Times change I guess.
Just sayin.

Have you idk see alot of bragging and chest beating already without any pictures or specifics.

There posing pics to brag and there posing them as data and better illustrate something. Why most tof my posts are picture heavy..not because I'm bragging but a lot more information can be shown and decisions made based on a actual picture vs just be writing something. And it's pretty interesting how stuff happens when you actually show a picture that detailed. One thing to say you gun shoots sub MOA but then when you show your sub MOA group stuff becomes a lot more clear. Such as
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Like yeah it's sub MOA but someone with experienced eyes can look at that and really understand what's goin on

Side note , if your looking into cast .30cal gotta say the NOE 30XCB tis a heck of a nice bullet to use

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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: jbyrd63] #8131098
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Like I said earlier. In this part of the country "saving the fur" isn't the reason to call and kill.



Hey Cream Puff, I'm waiting for you to refresh our memories where you said that? I can't find that reference?
Maybe you can?

This thread wasn't about cast bullets and certainty didn't need you chiming in about how you KNOW ( I Am Lion, Hear Me Roar) about shooting cast bullets out of a 250.
HOW MANY coyotes have you killed with that combo? You chimed in as being a know_ it_ all, (usually do), so how many. Simple question. Have you shot a coyote with a cast bullet out of a 250?

Don't be so angry man. A fella in your condition can stroke out over that.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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