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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: beaverpeeler] #8130692
04/29/24 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Print that off Swamp and see if you can get Boco to initial about half of them! laugh

Ha...I thought that same thing after I read over them before hitting "Post Reply."

And in all fairness......I can initial a couple of em myself....lol


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8130727
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Some good info to be learned on Tman about marketing your fur....

A) that was a poor average..I wouldn't have sold my fur for that.
B) you didn't include in your avg the ones you held back...so that ain't a true average.
C) send your pelts to FH...your averages will be higher.
D) don't sell to the "rat/beaver wagon"...you'll lose $$.
E) Groney knows what your averages will be b4 you arrive to sell.
F) I can put a minimum on my fur at FH....cause I am a buyer.
G) premium northern fur always brings more $$.
H) southern fur is junk and I don't really understand why your avgs are close to mine.
I) don't sell your poor fur in a down market....cause then my good stuff won't sell as high.
J) if you don’t put up your pelts....you ain’t a real trapper.
K) my averages are _______.......before those FH commissions & deductions....but....
L) when is my FH check gonna arrive in the mail?
M) you have to search for other markets during low market times....or buy a fur sewing machine.
N) I'd just tan them all when the market is poor.....all of em?? 100s of pelts??
O) I'll never send fur to FH again...because...
P) I'll never sell fur to Groeny again....because...
Q) local association auctions are the best place to sell.....because...
R) there are no FH agents in the deep South....
S) wait until the next FH auction for the fur market to set/ establish for that species.
T) Groeny throws/mixes seller's fur up into the truck b4 a price is agreed upon.
U) you didn’t use enough nails on those beaver pelts.
V) those bit up/mis-stretched beaver brought nearly same $ as perfect beavers.
W) is that in Canadian or US dollars?
X) shearable beaver always bring more $ than hatters.
Y) I haven't trapped or sold any fur in years, but take my advice...
Z) FH is ran by trappers and NAFA went bankrupt.

I ran out of alphabet.....

I see you left no room in the alphabet for others to add?

Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: trappermac NY] #8130764
04/30/24 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by trappermac NY
This site amazes me with all the math wizards and fur market experts sharing their make believe knowledge.

Nice job Walleyed! You sold the desireable fur for a nice price and average, and where the buyer lowballed on less desireable you pulled back to find a better market for those furs. Probably 99% of the others on here would have sold all because they're too lazy to market their furs wisely and then come on here and cry that groeney ripped them off.

You set a fine example on how to properly market your fur.


Thanks Mac,

Appreciate the kind words.

Just trying to put out the information on the small bit of wild fur
that passes through my hands via trapping & other means.

Never claimed to be an expert like some of the colorful characters on here.

But like Strother Martin famously stated in "Cool Hand Luke" :

"SOME PEOPLE YOU JUST CAN'T REACH" !!! laugh

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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: Slick Pan] #8130773
04/30/24 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick Pan
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Some good info to be learned on Tman about marketing your fur....

A) that was a poor average..I wouldn't have sold my fur for that.
B) you didn't include in your avg the ones you held back...so that ain't a true average.
C) send your pelts to FH...your averages will be higher.
D) don't sell to the "rat/beaver wagon"...you'll lose $$.
E) Groney knows what your averages will be b4 you arrive to sell.
F) I can put a minimum on my fur at FH....cause I am a buyer.
G) premium northern fur always brings more $$.
H) southern fur is junk and I don't really understand why your avgs are close to mine.
I) don't sell your poor fur in a down market....cause then my good stuff won't sell as high.
J) if you don’t put up your pelts....you ain’t a real trapper.
K) my averages are _______.......before those FH commissions & deductions....but....
L) when is my FH check gonna arrive in the mail?
M) you have to search for other markets during low market times....or buy a fur sewing machine.
N) I'd just tan them all when the market is poor.....all of em?? 100s of pelts??
O) I'll never send fur to FH again...because...
P) I'll never sell fur to Groeny again....because...
Q) local association auctions are the best place to sell.....because...
R) there are no FH agents in the deep South....
S) wait until the next FH auction for the fur market to set/ establish for that species.
T) Groeny throws/mixes seller's fur up into the truck b4 a price is agreed upon.
U) you didn’t use enough nails on those beaver pelts.
V) those bit up/mis-stretched beaver brought nearly same $ as perfect beavers.
W) is that in Canadian or US dollars?
X) shearable beaver always bring more $ than hatters.
Y) I haven't trapped or sold any fur in years, but take my advice...
Z) FH is ran by trappers and NAFA went bankrupt.

I ran out of alphabet.....

I see you left no room in the alphabet for others to add?

Appearanrely you haven't been paying attention. Now at DD.

Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: walleyed] #8130852
04/30/24 09:19 AM
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Slick Pan only read my post and he obviously doesnt know Greek either.....lol


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: walleyed] #8130899
04/30/24 10:46 AM
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I read your list. Over half of that stuff has come out of Boco's mouth . If i comment on most of the prices walleyed saw, and think they are at unprofitable levels it is not a reccomendation to anybody do anything. M6st of those prices are bad and most any other marketing option will be simularly bad.


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: walleyed] #8130903
04/30/24 10:52 AM
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E) Groney knows what your averages will be b4 you arrive to sell.


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: Dirt] #8130916
04/30/24 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I read your list. Over half of that stuff has come out of Boco's mouth . If i comment on most of the prices walleyed saw, and think they are at unprofitable levels it is not a reccomendation to anybody do anything. M6st of those prices are bad and most any other marketing option will be simularly bad.



Lesson learned from the Alaskan fur buyer.

It's all just critique.......no harm ...no foul...

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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: Dirt] #8130923
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I read your list. Over half of that stuff has come out of Boco's mouth . If i comment on most of the prices walleyed saw, and think they are at unprofitable levels it is not a reccomendation to anybody do anything. M6st of those prices are bad and most any other marketing option will be simularly bad.



You are exaggerating agin,Only 7 of those I agree with.(1/4) lol.

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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: Boco] #8130936
04/30/24 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by Dirt
I read your list. Over half of that stuff has come out of Boco's mouth . If i comment on most of the prices walleyed saw, and think they are at unprofitable levels it is not a reccomendation to anybody do anything. M6st of those prices are bad and most any other marketing option will be simularly bad.



You are exaggerating agin,Only 7 of those I agree with.(1/4) lol.

Yall feel free to add anything that has been missed. We're all here to learn...


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: walleyed] #8130937
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I got nothing more to add,you all know everything now.


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: walleyed] #8130939
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It was a rough estimate. I appologize


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: Dirt] #8130941
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Originally Posted by Boco
I got nothing more to add,you all know everything now.

Originally Posted by Dirt
It was a rough estimate. I appologize

Dang!

The two most knowledgeable guys about the fur market appear to be bowing out..


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: walleyed] #8131004
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I'd watch that hour long interview guy groewald did. Straight from the rocking man himself.


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: Dirt] #8131049
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I'd watch that hour long interview guy groewald did. Straight from the rocking man himself.

As GFW is my only feasible fur market, I have watched every YouTube video they have posted.


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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8131594
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Dirt
Walleyed has premium northern fur. Are prices at income producing levels? If not, what do I care.


What kis income? Reportable to IRS? Enough $$ to buy a happy meal?

Are you producing enough fur to call it "income"?

Never have seen a post from you about your fur income or sale averages or even how much fur/numbers you produce. Just comments on why some us shouldn't sell pelts in a down market because it hurts your market.






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Produce all the fur you want, l told you before it does not affect my market. If you watch the guy greonwald interveiw from hooser trappers supply he explains how supply effects the fur market
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Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: walleyed] #8131683
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Swamp has a very limited market to sell his fur according to him. It's clear that it is difficult for him to see the forest thru the trees.

Re: GROENY ROCKS AGAIN !!! [Re: Slick Pan] #8131711
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Dirt,
If I lived and trapped in Alaska and bought fur too, a $7000 fur check would be just pocket change.



Originally Posted by Slick Pan
Swamp has a very limited market to sell his fur according to him. It's clear that it is difficult for him to see the forest thru the trees.


Yes....I have a such a limited fur market down here that if you lived here you would just go play golf or something and would sell all your trapping gear.


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