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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: FursFTW]
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04/28/24 05:41 PM
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Moved to Fbks, Ak.
martentrapper
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After 40 years of ATA membership I figure I’ve paid a few hundred more than the 500 the current life membership is. Like 160 said, times, politics, and those that run the show change.
Last edited by martentrapper; 04/28/24 05:44 PM.
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: FursFTW]
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04/28/24 05:48 PM
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Steven 49er
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The one thing that never ends is the anti's trying to take away what we do.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: wy.wolfer]
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04/28/24 06:35 PM
04/28/24 06:35 PM
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CTRAPS
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This whole thread shows why trappers organizations are struggling. Trappers (not every single one) as a whole are the cheapest, least supportive of their own activities of any consumptive group on the planet. Pay up or shut up! I'm over my rant. I agree. There are any number of reasons or excuses some will use to justify not joining a local, state, or national trapping association, as there are trappers. Even if I don't agree 100% with everything an association is doing or has done, I'd rather join and feel like I was supporting something I love to do, vs. being cheap and not supporting anything.
Life Member: ITA, IBA & NRA. Member of SA, FTA & NTA
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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04/28/24 07:06 PM
04/28/24 07:06 PM
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Co.-Wy. part time AK.
wy.wolfer
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I don't know the answer to your question, but in general I would advise everyone to NEVER join an association for life. You might think it's the best thing in the world right now, but in one election cycle you can find the association you joined for life is actively working against the best interest of trapping.
Sure, it costs a bit more to re-up every year, but if you renew on a yearly basis, you at least know your money is going to an association that is actually fighting for what is best for the trapping community. I think I'd have to call on this theory. Name one trappers Assn. that is actively now or ever working against legitimate trapping and the North American model of Wildlife Management??
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: BernieB.]
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04/28/24 07:38 PM
04/28/24 07:38 PM
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Marty B
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Do you know how many members then, Bernie? Just curious. I really don't know. It was a strong and thriving organization compared to today. I hosted the ITA convention in Forest City in 1987 and I believe over 6,000 people attended. It looked a lot different than it does today. The summer of 87 was the last high water mark for the entire industry. It's been a down hill slide ever since. We've slid so far down now, everyone is just nodding, and smiling as we go round, and round circling the drain
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: FursFTW]
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04/28/24 08:49 PM
04/28/24 08:49 PM
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Steven 49er
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This whole thread shows why trappers organizations are struggling. Trappers (not every single one) as a whole are the cheapest, least supportive of their own activities of any consumptive group on the planet. Pay up or shut up! I'm over my rant. I agree. There are any number of reasons or excuses some will use to justify not joining a local, state, or national trapping association, as there are trappers. Even if I don't agree 100% with everything an association is doing or has done, I'd rather join and feel like I was supporting something I love to do, vs. being cheap and not supporting anything. I agree. 50%. The reason I don't agree 100% is because joining is not enough, it takes money. If every trapper would give $100 cash donation on top of their membership to their association, we'd have a lot more stroke.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: CTRAPS]
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04/28/24 09:17 PM
04/28/24 09:17 PM
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Bruce T
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This whole thread shows why trappers organizations are struggling. Trappers (not every single one) as a whole are the cheapest, least supportive of their own activities of any consumptive group on the planet. Pay up or shut up! I'm over my rant. I agree. There are any number of reasons or excuses some will use to justify not joining a local, state, or national trapping association, as there are trappers. Even if I don't agree 100% with everything an association is doing or has done, I'd rather join and feel like I was supporting something I love to do, vs. being cheap and not supporting anything. X3
Nevada bound
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: FursFTW]
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04/29/24 09:01 AM
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2poor
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Takes more than a financial donation to be a contributing member. You should offer a commitment of your time.
Every individual has a strength the Association can use !
Work the gate, pick up a broom, provide a demo , pick up trash, help with fundraiser, help move vendors in or out, build the demo area, place the tailgaters, donate to kids events.
Far too many strut into their Association’s gatherings and never lift a finger.
It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: 2poor]
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04/29/24 09:14 AM
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20scout
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Takes more than a financial donation to be a contributing member. You should offer a commitment of your time.
Every individual has a strength the Association can use !
Work the gate, pick up a broom, provide a demo , pick up trash, help with fundraiser, help move vendors in or out, build the demo area, place the tailgaters, donate to kids events.
Far too many strut into their Association’s gatherings and never lift a finger.
X2!
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: 2poor]
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04/29/24 09:17 AM
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160user
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Far too many strut into their Association’s gatherings and never lift a finger.
Thank you for noticing my "strut". I practiced it for a week in front of the mirror. It's nice to see it didn't go unnoticed.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: 160user]
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04/29/24 09:49 AM
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Lake Mille Lacs , MN
2poor
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Thank you for noticing my "strut". I practiced it for a week in front of the mirror. It's nice to see it didn't go unnoticed.
Anybody who missed your strut , certainly noticed you in the midget mud wrestling !
It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: 2poor]
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04/29/24 09:53 AM
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160user
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Thank you for noticing my "strut". I practiced it for a week in front of the mirror. It's nice to see it didn't go unnoticed.
Anybody who missed your strut , certainly noticed you in the midget mud wrestling ! That is a performance that will never be seen again at an MTA function. I am out. I think there was a few hundred dollars in the hat for the LDF too.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: FursFTW]
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04/29/24 01:18 PM
04/29/24 01:18 PM
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Steven 49er
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2poor I agree with your statement of contributing time as well. Dont even have to go to the convention to help out. Do a trapper ed class, go to the trappers rally at the Capitol, do a local fair the list goes on.
160, life is all about choices.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: Steven 49er]
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04/29/24 03:20 PM
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160user
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160, life is all about choices.
True story! And it was my choice to remove the MTA as my beneficiary on my retirement and pension.
Last edited by 160user; 04/29/24 03:21 PM.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: FursFTW]
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04/29/24 04:36 PM
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Steven 49er
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By then we probably won't be trapping anyhow.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Why is joining the MTA so expensive now?!
[Re: 2poor]
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04/29/24 08:22 PM
04/29/24 08:22 PM
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trapdog1
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Takes more than a financial donation to be a contributing member. You should offer a commitment of your time.
Every individual has a strength the Association can use !
Work the gate, pick up a broom, provide a demo , pick up trash, help with fundraiser, help move vendors in or out, build the demo area, place the tailgaters, donate to kids events.
Far too many strut into their Association’s gatherings and never lift a finger.
True stuff.
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