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Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: Trapper5123] #8128212
04/25/24 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper5123
My biL put a sprinkler on one a few years ago and fell asleep. The next morning the whole tree was broken up from the ice. Lol

believe me this was a concern for me too.

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128215
04/25/24 08:01 AM
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From the sounds of it, you have done everything you could to save it. Hopefully you will still get some fruit.

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: pintail_drake04] #8128218
04/25/24 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pintail_drake04
From the sounds of it, you have done everything you could to save it. Hopefully you will still get some fruit.

Just finished last spray on icicles. Headed to school now..yup im done.

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128268
04/25/24 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by west river rogue
Called for killing frost between 12:00 a.m. and 10:am so im out watering my 3rd yr white peach tree to warm it up as its only bearing 3 yrs and had more blooms than ever. White peaches have a hard time in my climate....its about 30 degrees now.

I built a temporary shelter for my dwarf peach, I put a heat lamp in it when winter temperature was supposed to get more than -25

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: Tactical.20] #8128419
04/25/24 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tactical.20
Originally Posted by west river rogue
Called for killing frost between 12:00 a.m. and 10:am so im out watering my 3rd yr white peach tree to warm it up as its only bearing 3 yrs and had more blooms than ever. White peaches have a hard time in my climate....its about 30 degrees now.

I built a temporary shelter for my dwarf peach, I put a heat lamp in it when winter temperature was supposed to get more than -25

Mine is 25 ft tall and 15 across...cant feasably do that. I wish I could.

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128420
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you all need to move to Gods Country,,,,,, smile


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Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128422
04/25/24 01:38 PM
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Does it look like you saved the blossoms?

Keith

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128432
04/25/24 01:49 PM
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keith it blossomed about 8-10 days ago.....looks like baby peaches and stipules on it with the baby peaches the size of a match head.

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128439
04/25/24 02:03 PM
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Peaches are self fertile but the pollen grains that attach to the stigma send a tiny tube down the stigma into the ovule. This process is temperature dependent and very cold or freezing temps arrest the process or cause pollination to fail completely. In the west I've never heard of anybody using irrigation to assist peach or cherry bloom during freezing temps, but smudge pots and wind machines are very common. Especially wind machines in modern times.

White peaches are generally preferred by asians. They are sub-acid so appear to be sweeter than yellow peaches. I used to grow 5 different varieties of whites: IN ripening order: 'Sno-Brite', 'White Lady',
'Sugar Giant', 'Gum', and 'Snow King'.


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Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128468
04/25/24 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by west river rogue
keith it blossomed about 8-10 days ago.....looks like baby peaches and stipules on it with the baby peaches the size of a match head.


My peaches, nectarines and plums are just slightly bigger than yours. My pears are about 1/2" now. At 28F about 10% of newly formed peaches are supposed to die. It doesn't look like I have any frost damage. My apples and cherries are finishing up blooming now. I've seen very few bees this year, so I don't know how good of a fruit set I'll get. It does look like I'll get at least some of everything.

I have some trees that are almost always reliable. Peaches, plums and nectarines are unreliable here. Some of my pear and apple trees always produce well, almost to well.

I hope you have a good fruit year.

Keith

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: beaverpeeler] #8128469
04/25/24 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Peaches are self fertile but the pollen grains that attach to the stigma send a tiny tube down the stigma into the ovule. This process is temperature dependent and very cold or freezing temps arrest the process or cause pollination to fail completely. In the west I've never heard of anybody using irrigation to assist peach or cherry bloom during freezing temps, but smudge pots and wind machines are very common. Especially wind machines in modern times.

White peaches are generally preferred by asians. They are sub-acid so appear to be sweeter than yellow peaches. I used to grow 5 different varieties of whites: IN ripening order: 'Sno-Brite', 'White Lady',
'Sugar Giant', 'Gum', and 'Snow King'.



Carl, you always have interesting varieties, I've often not heard of.

Keith

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: KeithC] #8128502
04/25/24 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Peaches are self fertile but the pollen grains that attach to the stigma send a tiny tube down the stigma into the ovule. This process is temperature dependent and very cold or freezing temps arrest the process or cause pollination to fail completely. In the west I've never heard of anybody using irrigation to assist peach or cherry bloom during freezing temps, but smudge pots and wind machines are very common. Especially wind machines in modern times.

White peaches are generally preferred by asians. They are sub-acid so appear to be sweeter than yellow peaches. I used to grow 5 different varieties of whites: IN ripening order: 'Sno-Brite', 'White Lady',
'Sugar Giant', 'Gum', and 'Snow King'.



Carl, you always have interesting varieties, I've often not heard of.

Keith

My pear tree(only one left) has been doing huge for the last 3 yrs. Im figuring it is going to die soon. It was here and very large when I bought the place in 93. At that time the peaches werent large or good. Now they are larger...not large and always good. Although I did have a bartlet here that I know was at least 60 yrs old because a guy i knew had lived here around 80 yrs ago and had it. The thieves cut it down while i was in Asia.

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128510
04/25/24 04:32 PM
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So bp you got me wondering and researching white peaches and it says peaches originally came from Asia. My white peach is a good fit because my son also was born in Asia....Im a white peach fan...less fuzz too. I had no idea there are like 11 types....probably more not listed. Thanks for my continued education!!!

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128542
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Most of the whites I got were from Dave Wilson Nursery in California and were developed by Zaiger genetics. (Zaiger was one heck of a plant breeder). Anymore Dave Wilson is hard to do business with so good luck with that.

'Gum' peach was bred locally by a friend of mine now passed on. He crossed a Hale peach with some obscure old time white he had and got a better peach. His name was Stewart Gum and I think he called it 'pineapple peach' because it was so heavily scented like a tropical fruit. After he passed I renamed it 'Gum' peach in his honor. I had several trees I grafted into my orchard but about 10 years ago I tore out my whole orchard and lost the variety for good. I think I might have had the last of those genetics.


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Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128809
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frost again in riverbottom....heavy....out watering to wash the frost off. Wasnt predicted.

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128923
04/26/24 09:56 AM
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Sounds stressful. Condolences.


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Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: beaverpeeler] #8128931
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Sounds stressful. Condolences.

ill be happy if I get peaches. Goes with the territory.

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128933
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For those who grow them, Peach trees are the devil

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: WhiteCliffs] #8128940
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Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
For those who grow them, Peach trees are the devil

But they taste sooo good...if its not all the frost its peach tree curl..

Re: spraying peach tree 4:30 a.m. [Re: west river rogue] #8128944
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For me the bugaboo was brown rot/blossom blight with western Oregon's rainy springs. But I had a good run and we still have customers crying about not getting our peaches and nectarines any longer.


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