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Guess what we did today? #8122419
04/15/24 07:47 PM
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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122420
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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122422
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That is not a fun job!


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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122428
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On your dog or in the clinic?


Eh...wot?

Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: jarentz] #8122431
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Originally Posted by keets
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Originally Posted by jarentz
That is not a fun job!

Less fun for the pin cushion....


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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122436
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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: Lugnut] #8122448
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
On your dog or in the clinic?


At the clinic. Must have been a younger porky cause the quills were all very small , made the job more tedious. Good ol coonhound named Rocky. Just a darling boi. He was under for darn near three hours. He got gabapentin, carprofen and cephalexin to go home on. Iv antibiotics and SQ carprofen while he was under. Plus IV fluids. Tough guy!

Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122449
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When he arrived today. Pain to the max but still wanted to see what was on the countertops. And he wagged his tail. Good puppy

Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122455
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Do you think he learned something today??


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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122467
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Poor fella!
You'd like to think he learned his lesson, but I wouldn't count on that.

Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122472
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Over the last twenty-five years every one of my labs has been turned into a pincushion by porkies while grouse hunting in north central PA.

I have the phone numbers of of three area vets in my contacts.

I know a lot of guys on here yank quills out of their dogs on their own but I've always (except once) taken mine to the vet to be knocked out before having them removed.

A yellow lab I had ten years ago had 121 quills in his face, neck and tongue. He had taken a hard tail-slap. I took him to a vet in Smethport on a Sunday afternoon. The Doc knocked him out and pulled the quills. i had him save them for me, that's how I know how many there were.

He let me take the dog back to camp while he was still unconsciousness. I'll never forget walking out of his office carrying my limp dog and the older women on the street that nearly started crying at the sight. She regained her composure after I told her the dog was not dead, just knocked out and that he would be fine.


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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122473
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I did pull about twenty of them out of one of my current labs with the help of my son-in-law. That's the only time I've done that. We were hunting out of camp and we think Boomer found a dead porky and was playing with it. Most of the quills were in his front legs. He just showed up with quills sticking out of him.

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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122479
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My son had a golden retriever that never learned, each time it happened he had more quills and it happened several times. He had quills all the way down his throat like he was trying to eat them.


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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122480
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No I don’t think they learn. This client has brought in different coyote dogs for different reasons. This one got in a tussle with a bobcat who nearly cost him his life. His leg was jacked and he had such a fever. They’re such tough dogs. He was still eating and wanted to hunt. They’re really remarkable

Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122483
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this is why i shoot every porkie i see! some dogs learn, most don't!


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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: minklessinpa] #8122522
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Originally Posted by minklessinpa
this is why i shoot every porkie i see! some dogs learn, most don't!

Exactly


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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8122539
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No experience with them down here. I keep hearing the same thing, some dogs never learn to leave them alone. Is there something unique about a porky that a shock collar won't turn them from?

I would think a porky in a cage under controlled conditions would be how you set up a training session with a collar.

The never learn part sounds like the dog is getting angered at the pain and trying to kill what's hurting it.


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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8123272
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We two of us have removed many quills for my buddys coon dogs. Most of the time they blank out after the first 10 or so are pulled and then we both go to work while they are unconscious. Once in a while a dog will not go blank out and that makes it more difficult. Yes the dogs are tough.....jk


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Re: Guess what we did today? [Re: elsmasho82] #8123351
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I have no experience with porkies , but I don’t think it’s anger . I think it’s unchecked prey drive. Around here it’s deer , skunks and opossum. Back in the days before good e- collars it was very hard to get the situation just right where you could give correction in a timely manner. Opossum and skunk are not as bad because the hound usually caught the problem for you so you could begin “ correction therapy “ , at this point it’s up to the handler to make sure correction is done so the hound understands why he or she is in so much trouble. But deer are a completely different story as most of the time when a handler was reunited with the hound the race was over and correction would be completely uncalled for as the hound has no idea why it’s being corrected.
All of this being said , I believe porkies are like deer, once you get your hands on the pup the incident is already over, the offender is long gone. The easiest way I know of to stop this behavior, is to start when they are puppies. Before you all start thinking I’m a cruel SOB , hear me out. Wouldn’t it be nice to buy a puppy that is already shy of un desirable critters ? It’s pretty easy and passive on your part. Take a tarsal gland from a deer and place it in a ball of electric fence wire and hang it in the corner of the whelping or weening pen. This can be done with any problem critter and it leaves a lasting impression. If you could catch a porcupine, opossum, skunk....... and put it in a cage trap and put it in the corner of your dogs running pen, with enough hot wire to keep the hound from getting to it , you don’t have to thank me now.

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