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Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: Diggerman] #8119591
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Originally Posted by panaxman
Still active in Chester County & Lancaster County PA. They try to payoff neighboring Amish to NOT let trappers trap their farms. I have had to wait until some of the fox hunt neighbors went to FL for extended winter vacations to set up. Amish want to get along with their neighbors, for the most part.

Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
When the kids were little, the dog pack chased a fox through my yard.
Later the horses and riders came trotting down the road.
My oldest said something like,
"The English are coming the English are coming".

Their perpetual trespassing and property damage is frowned on.
Dogs can't read you know.
They need large tracts of private land.

They are real nice when fishing for info
or trying to bribe and buy live fox.
The rest of the time they bad mouth and hate me
according to farmers.
Just gossip, I'm sure.

And here we go, haters gotta hate.


And how the great old traditions gradually slip away.

Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: elsmasho82] #8119599
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Wright Brothers,
You are CORRECT!

The houndsmen wanted to run whereever they wanted, no matter who owned the land, but despised trappers.

Then, with the increasing popularity of leasing deer hunting rights...that wound up the houndsmen running all over the country.

They were then relegated to running in enclosures only.

I'm no hater, but fox houndsmen were NEVER a trapper's friend.


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Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: elsmasho82] #8120110
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Did I say hate, I meant jealousy. It was always the gamehogs on either side that caused the problem.

Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: Diggerman] #8120112
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Did I say hate, I meant jealousy. It was always the gamehogs on either side that caused the problem.

Jealousy?

Why would a fox trapper be jealous of houndsmen running a fox when a good fox trapper caught dozens or hundreds in a season?

The game hog is the guy that let his hounds run all over everyone's property w/o permission and then griped about a trapper "catching all the fox."

I dealt with this throughout the late 70s and 80s...until deer leases took over.


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Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: elsmasho82] #8120126
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Weve still got some folks who do it around me in central GA. I believe there is a pretty good chunk of land that is a part of a horse riding club that does it. I saw the packs of dogs running across a sod farm a few years ago and the cars in front of me hit the brakes in the middle of the road. Out popped people with whips trying to keep the dogs from crossing the highway. It didnt work and they ran across the highway onto another property. Then behind me runs a couple guys in red coats on horse back. That was my first experience with the whole thing.

Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8120549
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Diggerman
Did I say hate, I meant jealousy. It was always the gamehogs on either side that caused the problem.

Jealousy?

Why would a fox trapper be jealous of houndsmen running a fox when a good fox trapper caught dozens or hundreds in a season?

The game hog is the guy that let his hounds run all over everyone's property w/o permission and then griped about a trapper "catching all the fox."

I dealt with this throughout the late 70s and 80s...until deer leases took over.


Im willing to bet Game wardens have done more " running all over everyones property w/o permision" than fox hunters.

Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: elsmasho82] #8120586
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Diggerman,
Why are you being such a turdhead? You just wanna argue with a retired game warden about something you don't know anything about? Direct your efforts elsewhere..because I could care less what you think about me or any employed game wardens.

BTW, here in Georgia, GWs are allowed by state law to go on or about properties, outside of buildings, without a warrant, in the performance of their duties.

Maybe they are allowed to do that in Wisconsin. I hope they visit you regularly! They probably should.

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Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: elsmasho82] #8120616
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Wow I didn’t realize there were so many conflicting opinions about this! I was watching Darby O’Gill and the Little People and I thought i would ask about the fox chase!

Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: elsmasho82] #8120619
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a tradition brought from England, ya know when common folk were peasants and the crown owned all land. We run those sucks out of of this nation long ago.. Our founders had a better ideal, hence the good old USA.. unless you've got blood from those vampires I'm not sure why'd anyone would want to entertain any of that.

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Originally Posted by grumley701
a tradition brought from England, ya know when common folk were peasants and the crown owned all land. We run those sucks out of of this nation long ago.. Our founders had a better ideal, hence the good old USA.. unless you've got blood from those vampires I'm not sure why'd anyone would want to entertain any of that.


I’m poor. I can’t entertain any of it. Was just musing. Additionally, I can’t claim to be “American” unless I’m a Native American.

Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: elsmasho82] #8120660
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
Originally Posted by grumley701
a tradition brought from England, ya know when common folk were peasants and the crown owned all land. We run those sucks out of of this nation long ago.. Our founders had a better ideal, hence the good old USA.. unless you've got blood from those vampires I'm not sure why'd anyone would want to entertain any of that.


I’m poor. I can’t entertain any of it. Was just musing. Additionally, I can’t claim to be “American” unless I’m a Native American.

Your more than welcome to name any nation that has came to being without conquest...good or bad. I was born here, I'm a true blood American.


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I don’t feel right saying it. I ain’t earned anything. Right place at the right time maybe

Re: The Foxhunt! [Re: elsmasho82] #8120665
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Now we're getting deep, alls I've earned is (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and the grave.. it's about grace. I was born as an American I had nothing to do with how this all came about but I will honor the Ideals of self governance that the founders laid out before me.


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We can’t solve all the world’s crap nor make sense of it! I just know that I have Russian and Croatian heritage and that I happened to be born in this country. Beautiful as it is; I feel that God loves us all. This country has enough dark history , enough to be ashamed of sometimes. Just like the rest of this miserable planet. It’s nobody’s fault. The Devil has been cast down, knowing he has a short period of time.

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You hold the shame of your ancestry?, not me. I think most have revisionist history driven by lies told by our current social ideals. Again I'll ask, what nation today stands that hasn't used conquest to exist? Our current world is much more tempered than those in the past. Before all the men/boys were killed in conquest, the question is why. If you struggle with that answer I can help.

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The shame of mankind just cannot be undone. Doesn’t matter which country or race. We are all imperfect idiots. I don’t need any help to accept that. Leave it be. Please.

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That's fine, the truth isn't for everyone.. war is for men.


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Lucky for you, I’m a woman. And I don’t need “the truth” from some imperfect man

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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
Lucky for you, I’m a woman. And I don’t need “the truth” from some imperfect man


Of course you don't, perhaps you can look to another woman for your answers.. you all wonder what's going wrong with the world.


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I look higher. Have a snack and calm down I said I didn’t wanna fight. Night court is on

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