No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8009225
12/01/23 11:33 PM
12/01/23 11:33 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,487
Idaho
B
bearcat2 Offline
trapper
bearcat2  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,487
Idaho
Grew up knowing that you always tried to "Jew" someone down when you were buying a car or anything like that. I was an adult before I realized the word originated with the Jewish people and was slang. It was just a common everyday word.

Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8009228
12/01/23 11:39 PM
12/01/23 11:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 10,846
Asheville, NC
C
charles Offline
trapper
charles  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 10,846
Asheville, NC
Grew up in a small town in Eastern NC. We had no faiths other than Methodist and Baptist. ,no Catholic, Jews, or any Protestant faith except Baptist and Methodist.

I was familiar with the term “Jew”. It was a verb, not a noun.

Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8009234
12/01/23 11:45 PM
12/01/23 11:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,325
Oregon
beaverpeeler Offline OP
trapper
beaverpeeler  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,325
Oregon
I was being tongue-in-cheek. Getting "gypped" would be a racial slur against the gypsies.


My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8009252
12/02/23 12:19 AM
12/02/23 12:19 AM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45,563
james bay frontierOnt.
B
Boco Online content
trapper
Boco  Online Content
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45,563
james bay frontierOnt.
OK I see where you went there,
Gypped by a Jew or Jewed by a Gyp,lol.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115094
04/05/24 05:34 PM
04/05/24 05:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 574
Communist State Of New York
Archeryguy Offline
trapper
Archeryguy  Offline
trapper

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 574
Communist State Of New York
I'm pretty sure I am the only Jewish trapper on the planet. My family can't quite figure out why I love trapping, hunting , guns and conservatives.. lol

[Linked Image]

Last edited by Archeryguy; 04/05/24 05:36 PM.
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: charles] #8115106
04/05/24 05:54 PM
04/05/24 05:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 25,677
Georgia
warrior Offline
trapper
warrior  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 25,677
Georgia
Originally Posted by charles
Grew up in a small town in Eastern NC. We had no faiths other than Methodist and Baptist. ,no Catholic, Jews, or any Protestant faith except Baptist and Methodist.

I was familiar with the term “Jew”. It was a verb, not a noun.


We had one in our community. He bought and ran the local BBQ joint, pork BBQ. And it was great BBQ no less.

The across the street neighbor was Catholic, she was first generation Czech. Two of her sons and a couple grandchildren lived next to her all good baptists as were all of those generations. Many who were deacons at the church I grew up in.


[Linked Image]
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115109
04/05/24 05:56 PM
04/05/24 05:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 25,677
Georgia
warrior Offline
trapper
warrior  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 25,677
Georgia
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I was being tongue-in-cheek. Getting "gypped" would be a racial slur against the gypsies.


Gyp more often meant a young female hound, cur or feist. B itch was the word for one that had produced a litter but wasn't said in polite company.


[Linked Image]
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: bearcat2] #8115164
04/05/24 07:10 PM
04/05/24 07:10 PM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,067
WI
N
nimzy Offline
trapper
nimzy  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,067
WI
Originally Posted by bearcat2
Grew up knowing that you always tried to "Jew" someone down when you were buying a car.


Buddy tried to up on fur to Sy Gorwitz he replies “first of all, I don’t like your expression and secondly I offered you a fair price!” That was a humbling experience

Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115202
04/05/24 08:10 PM
04/05/24 08:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,241
Manitoba
N
Northof50 Offline
trapper
Northof50  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,241
Manitoba
Quite a bit of Winnipeg's fur trade was worked by the Jewish people during the hay day. Canada had many immigration policies going against them after the 1930 depression. The Russian revolution went against many of them trying to get out of the countries at the time.
Ever wonder why there are extra long sleeved shirts......those were made to hide the German tattoos with their numbers, those were the survivors of the camps.
The female owning stuff ie buildings is why many bankruptcies there is still brick and mortar left after the lawyers take what-ever.

Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115230
04/05/24 08:50 PM
04/05/24 08:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 21,407
Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
Jtrapper Offline
trapper
Jtrapper  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 21,407
Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
Make's sense the Jewish people were all about the fur business, they started out making coats out of camel hides, lol.


Not my circus, not my clowns.
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: bearcat2] #8115264
04/05/24 09:23 PM
04/05/24 09:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,623
Oregon 66
bfflobo Offline
trapper
bfflobo  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,623
Oregon 66
Originally Posted by bearcat2
Not sure why but the steel and scrap business used to go hand in hand with the fur business. I sold to Roger at Pacific fur years ago. He was upstairs at Pacific Steel and Recycling. Sell your scrap downstairs and then pack your furs upstairs to sell them.


I liked Roger. Good guy. He liked my cats also. Miss seeing him at our sales.
I have a black cap he donated and I won with orange and yellow flames along both sides from PACIFIC, steel, hides, furs, recycling. Spokane.
Anyone remember Rogers last name?

Last edited by bfflobo; 04/05/24 09:31 PM.

Clean traps,tight lines,straight shooting
http://i.imgur.com/3sawxE9m.jpg
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115550
04/06/24 09:13 AM
04/06/24 09:13 AM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 6,355
se South Dakota
NonPCfed Offline
trapper
NonPCfed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 6,355
se South Dakota
Quote
Basically anything in finance or needing finance.


Yes, they learned well from the Babylonians...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115562
04/06/24 09:28 AM
04/06/24 09:28 AM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 345
Siberia 🐁
T
Tatiana Offline
"Mushroom Guru"
Tatiana  Offline
"Mushroom Guru"
T

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 345
Siberia 🐁
A lot of our furriers are Jewish. The local furriers who made me a number of beautifully crafted garments are Jewish, and their skills are amazing, especially how they can remodel old garments into new things. Here's a nice wild mink hat they made for a friend this winter. Those mink were pretty small, and not the best fur possible (just their minnow trap bycatch). That friend couldn't believe it was the same mink they'd given me to take to the tannery.

[Linked Image]

Interestingly, many of the younger fur buyers here nowadays are Muslim. The man who currently offers the best prices for marten in Russia is Muslim and openly and blatantly antisemitic according to his posts in the social media. Yet I'm certain that all tails from the marten he buys eventually end up in Israel, to be turned into shtreimels.

Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115574
04/06/24 09:40 AM
04/06/24 09:40 AM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 254
idaho
G
grumpa Offline
trapper
grumpa  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 254
idaho
I'm pretty sure it was Roger Scheuer. my spellling is probably wrong. Wissmiss will know. She knows everything. Almost.

Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115603
04/06/24 10:28 AM
04/06/24 10:28 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,325
Oregon
beaverpeeler Offline OP
trapper
beaverpeeler  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,325
Oregon
That is a beautiful hat Tatiana! A lot of talent.


My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115777
04/06/24 03:33 PM
04/06/24 03:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,381
East-Central Wisconsin
B
bblwi Offline
trapper
bblwi  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,381
East-Central Wisconsin
When I started trapping again in the early 80s many of the fur buyers in our area were Jewish. We had very large state association autions and many participated. As stated above the garment and fur industry in New York was the hub of the fur industry in the USA and those businessess were mainly Jewish owned and ran. Yes the may have learned centuries ago how to handle fur or hides but so did not many other ethnic groups. Many natons did not allow Jews to own property and thus the became merchants and financial business owners.

Bryce

Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: grumpa] #8115785
04/06/24 03:46 PM
04/06/24 03:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,712
ND
M
MJM Offline
trapper
MJM  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,712
ND
Originally Posted by grumpa
I'm pretty sure it was Roger Scheuer. my spellling is probably wrong. Wissmiss will know. She knows everything. Almost.

Yes it was. I worked for Roger for two years in the fur room and worked in the hide room and scrap in the off season.


"Not Really, Not Really"
Mark J Monti
"MJM you're a jerk."
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: MChewk] #8115896
04/06/24 06:35 PM
04/06/24 06:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 214
Idaho
S
Salthunter Offline
trapper
Salthunter  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 214
Idaho
Originally Posted by MChewk
Why couldn't Jews own land?


There had been a history of land always being taken from the Jews.

My grandfather immigrated to the US The Germans took his grandparents property the Russians took his parents property

Last edited by Salthunter; 04/06/24 06:37 PM.

Work hard play hard
Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8115942
04/06/24 07:05 PM
04/06/24 07:05 PM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 300
worcester co MD
L
lady123 Offline
trapper
lady123  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 300
worcester co MD
One of my trapping mentors was jewish , He has passed on a few years back, We took our furs one year to an auction and he was ahead of my lot ,When he got his bid slips he turned to me and my brother and said Im not selling at this price, load my furs up. So my brother and I loaded the truck back up with his furs and ours . We traveled back home about a 3 hour drive one way. He was tight with his money and knew his fur grades.

Re: Jews in the fur trade? [Re: Tatiana] #8116255
04/07/24 12:18 AM
04/07/24 12:18 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,241
Manitoba
N
Northof50 Offline
trapper
Northof50  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,241
Manitoba
Originally Posted by Tatiana
A lot of our furriers are Jewish. The local furriers who made me a number of beautifully crafted garments are Jewish, and their skills are amazing, especially how they can remodel old garments into new things. Here's a nice wild mink hat they made for a friend this winter. Those mink were pretty small, and not the best fur possible (just their minnow trap bycatch). That friend couldn't believe it was the same mink they'd given me to take to the tannery.

[Linked Image]

Interestingly, many of the younger fur buyers here nowadays are Muslim. The man who currently offers the best prices for marten in Russia is Muslim and openly and blatantly antisemitic according to his posts in the social media. Yet I'm certain that all tails from the marten he buys eventually end up in Israel, to be turned into shtreimels.


Thanks for showing items from abroad. Those small mink have some of the best ratio of under fur /guard hair.( examples here are Maine maritime coastals and Hudson bay lowland mink)
With 90% of Turkey being Muslim and all the tanneries being there now having moved from Greece a few years ago....now shocking news they are demanding marten

Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread