Re: 110 conibear for coon
[Re: Oakey]
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03/29/24 05:54 PM
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The 120 magnums will kill any animal that can get its head in it.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: 110 conibear for coon
[Re: Oakey]
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03/30/24 10:29 AM
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Trapper7
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Interesting concept. Pictures would be great and welcome to Trapperman.
Must be nice to eat ice cream as fast as you want and not have to worry about brain freeze.
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Re: 110 conibear for coon
[Re: Oakey]
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03/30/24 11:02 AM
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The Beav
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I can see lots of leg caught coon. Not because of the trap but the small entry of that box opening. You get enough refusals and leg caught coon In 160 boxes. And a leg caught coon In a BG is not a pretty thing.
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Re: 110 conibear for coon
[Re: Oakey]
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03/30/24 11:56 AM
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jeff karsten
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I'd be interested in knowing what time of year and how you're setting the boxes such as vertical with opening down in late December
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Re: 110 conibear for coon
[Re: Oakey]
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03/30/24 12:12 PM
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Calvin
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I'm still stuck on the "inconsistencies" of the #220. Maybe we should examine that issue.
Even with a 160, I get refusals that I don't with a #220. Maybe if we were south of say, southern Missouri then we wouldn't (smaller coon) but It took me a solid 5 minutes to pry the head of a coon out of a #220 I got about 20 years ago. No way that coon could have got into, even a #160. And they say the head doesn't grow on big coon. False.
That said, There's many places we shouldn't be using the #220 but when we can, there's nothing that compares (other than a properly placed 1.5 coil spring.
I do agree with you on the modified trigger arraignment, however. This has to be done on even the #160s for big coon.
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Re: 110 conibear for coon
[Re: Oakey]
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03/30/24 12:28 PM
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Due to our rules size of body grips on dry sets, I dabbled with the smaller traps. WCS sells a beast of a 5 x 5. This one...... Had concerns about it, so built a box with plexiglass side, then set it up in barn with game camera on it. Had triggers set up on it as OP suggested......bent straight back, then down. Was amazed how deep a coon could get in one without setting that trap off. Even the biggest of them that came along had no trouble slithering thru it if they wanted to. Same as any other hole in woven wire fence or a building opening. Suitcased one. Part of problem with that particular trap is tension on the dog from very stout springs and short trigger wires. I had better luck with triggers slightly offset and getting trap to fire from the side. But that was the 5 x 5. This is a 120 box, being modeled in this photo by a Northwoods 120. As noted, if springs are all the way back, when fired, springs will propel trap out of the box. As an alternative, this one is shown with triggers in back position, and offset slightly. This one has a very light, four way trigger. It would be killer on youngsters in late summer, early fall.
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Re: 110 conibear for coon
[Re: Oakey]
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03/30/24 12:43 PM
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HayDay
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For my use, I had better outcome using 160s in vertical box, bottom entry. They go in those easy and no reaching. But if one adheres to our rules, that limits where you can set them.
Also changed box design to solid top and bottom (will hold nails or screws) and thin plywood sides.
Last edited by HayDay; 03/30/24 12:46 PM.
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Re: 110 conibear for coon
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03/30/24 01:29 PM
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The Beav
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I'm not a BG box guy but I had better luck when I raised the front edge of the box to a 45deg angle. It was a lot easier for the coon to stick It's head In the box then It was for it to get down on It's belly and try to get In. My 160s are set right at the front edge of the box no set back.
When we could use 220s In trail sets I liked to set the triggers off to one side . In theory I was trying to miss grinners and other non targets. Well that created a problem with the coon getting to far through and they were still alive. So I just twisted the wires together and moved the trigger to the center. This allowed most of the non targets to get by the trigger. But not the coon.
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